Re: Move a configuration file

2010-03-08 Thread Johan Cwiklinski
Hello, Le 07/03/2010 20:42, Ville Skyttä a écrit : >> If I change the path in conf.d/BackupPC.conf ; users who have modified >> the .conf file will get a conf.rpmnew file ; that's fine. >> > If apache.users moves from /usr/share/BackupPC to /etc/BackupPC, it'll break > these setups because t

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Saturday 06 March 2010 19:38:16 Michał Piotrowski wrote: > 2010/3/6 Naheem Zaffar : > > 2010/3/6 Michał Piotrowski > > > >> Why I can install KDE 4.4 in F11 and I can't install latest gnome? > >> (I'm just asking because I'm curious, not because I use Linux on > >> desktop) > > > > I think fo

Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

2010-03-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Friday 05 March 2010 18:37:06 Matthew Woehlke wrote: > Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > > As I had expected, breaking up the monolithic > > packages into individual packages is a whole lot > > of unnecessary work. Better to provide releases > > as they occur, than to waste time unnecessarily > > br

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Saturday 06 March 2010 23:48:23 Kalev Lember wrote: > On 03/07/2010 12:25 AM, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > >> +1, Michał! People who want the latest and greatest have already updated > >> to F12 months ago anyway, so there is not much use in

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : > The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 - > that's over 80% - in favour of 'adventurous' updates. Advanced users (those most likely to want a more stable rawhide to use it as primary system) use irc, mailing list

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/08/2010 11:20 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > Major KDE update was in time of Fedora 9, so it's not an issue today. > > And this it the first problem - we should not call major, minor, bugfix > release > because it doesn't mean the same for every each app out in the wild!!! Yes, it can get con

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 08 March 2010 10:41:18 Kalev Lember wrote: > On 03/08/2010 11:20 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > Major KDE update was in time of Fedora 9, so it's not an issue today. > > > > And this it the first problem - we should not call major, minor, bugfix > > release because it doesn't mean the sa

should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Ivana Hutarova Varekova
For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) and man-pages package. Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I think man dependences should be consistent in all man-pages*

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Juha Tuomala
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> Yes, it can get confusing. I think it was Kevin Kofler who suggested to >> talk about "feature releases" vs. "bugfix releases" instead >> to avoid confusion. > > Again you can't cut bugfixes from features :( Again, you can't cut regressions from fea

sos update causing PackageKit to barf

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
The latest sos update is not signed: [hugh...@hughsie-t61 packages]$ rpm -qp sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm warning: sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, key ID 57bbccba: NOKEY This causes PackageKit to barf. How come this update was pushed without a signature and all the other a

Re: sos update causing PackageKit to barf

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:42:00 +, Richard wrote: > The latest sos update is not signed: > > [hugh...@hughsie-t61 packages]$ rpm -qp sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm > warning: sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm: Header V3 RSA/SHA256 Signature, > key ID 57bbccba: NOKEY That means you don't have the key installe

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Montag, den 08.03.2010, 12:27 +0200 schrieb Juha Tuomala: > Again, you can't cut regressions from features :( > > To name few, your last push comes with: > - kmail that can't anymore 'Add address to book'. > - kaddressbook doesn't have 'Merge' feature anymore. > - kaddressbook View, Edit, Tool

Re: sos update causing PackageKit to barf

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 March 2010 10:59, Michael Schwendt wrote: > That means you don't have the key installed: This is a fresh F13 pre-alpha spin, updated last a few days ago. > $ rpm -Kv sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm > sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm: >    Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: OK, key ID 57bbccba >    Header S

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Rakesh Pandit
On 7 March 2010 20:18, Neal Becker wrote: >  Updating       : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch > 64/215 > libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: > type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ > n_t (No such file or directory). > libsemanage.semanage_link_sandbo

Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Michal Nowak
Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. Result is `gold-rebuild', Bash script which automates `gold's involvement in Mock buildroot. Tarball can be obtained here: http://mnowak.fedorapeople.org/gold-rebuild/dist/ What it can

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Michal Nowak
- "Michal Nowak" wrote: > See attachment for complete list. Regarding fails, they are being Here is comes. Michal[ GROUP @Base PACKAGES REBUILD ] ld: CVS snapshot from date: 20100303 gcc: gcc-4.4.3-4.fc12 (likely, just a guess) kernel: Linux assam 2.6.32.9-67.fc12.x86_64 #1 SMP Sat Feb 27

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 06:44:18AM -0500, Michal Nowak wrote: > So far when rebuilding Base group: TOTAL: 99 PASS: 84 FAIL: 15 > See attachment for complete list. Regarding fails, they are being > classified by the script so you can easily figure out, where might > be the problem (GCC v. gold v. fe

Re: sos update causing PackageKit to barf

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 11:20:45 +, Richard wrote: > > That means you don't have the key installed: > > This is a fresh F13 pre-alpha spin, updated last a few days ago. > > > $ rpm -Kv sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm > > sos-1.9-1.fc12.noarch.rpm: > >    Header V3 RSA/SHA256 signature: OK, key ID 57bbc

Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
Hi, what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel? The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's 13+ and 10- And the kernel got -5 since it's pushed to stable. Shouldn't that one stay out of stable for now? https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/kernel-2.6.32.9-67.

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:36:18PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: >Hi, > >what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel? > >The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's >13+ and 10- > >And the kernel got -5 since it's pushed to stable. Shouldn't that one >stay out of sta

howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
mercurial and tortoise-hg need (generally) to be pushed in sync. They are maintained by 2 different people. What are suggested ways to make sure pushes are synchronized? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:09:43AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >mercurial and tortoise-hg need (generally) to be pushed in sync. They >are maintained by 2 different people. What are suggested ways to make sure >pushes are synchronized? The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bu

Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! I just found that many java-related packages have packaging issues, and one of them draws my attention - explicit "Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}" in some *-javadoc packages. Since my java experience is rather small, I would like to ask you, dear List, whether %{name}-javadoc

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread leigh scott
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both packages > into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they get pushed at > the same time. > > josh They would need commit rights for both packages. --

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
leigh scott wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both >> packages >> into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they get >> pushed at the same time. >> >> josh > > They would need com

Push an update to F-13

2010-03-08 Thread Laurent Rineau
What is the new process to push an update to F-13 between alpha and beta? The packages I have in mind are out of the set of critical packages. -- Laurent Rineau http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LaurentRineau -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailma

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 March 2010 11:44, Michal Nowak wrote: > Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker > and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. Using gold, I get: /usr/bin/ld: --no-add-needed: unknown option /usr/bin/ld: use the --help option for usage information collect2: ld retu

Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Alain Portal
Le Lundi 8 Mars 2010 11:25:40, Ivana Hutarova Varekova a écrit : > For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language > mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) > and man-pages package. > Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man pa

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:28:29AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: >leigh scott wrote: > >> On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >>> The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both >>> packages >>> into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they

Re: howto group push?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:22:48PM +, leigh scott wrote: >On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 08:20 -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> The maintainers should coordinate, and one of them should bundle both >> packages >> into a single bodhi update. It's the only way to guarantee they get pushed >> at >> the sam

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/07/2010 09:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch > 64/215 > libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: > type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ > n_t (No such file or directory). > libsemanage.semanage_link_sand

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Frank Ch. Eigler
Michal Nowak writes: > Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker > and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. > [...] Do your scripts provide some evidence of exciting speedups with gold? - FChE -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorap

Re: Announcing `gold-rebuild' - link your packages with gold now

2010-03-08 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 09:24:29AM -0500, Frank Ch. Eigler wrote: > Michal Nowak writes: > > > Past months I spent investigating `gold' - the new GNU linker > > and how it now works with stock Fedora packages. > > [...] > > Do your scripts provide some evidence of exciting speedups with gold? O

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:36:18PM +0100, Thomas Janssen wrote: >>Hi, >> >>what kind of karma threshold is set for the kernel? >> >>The page in bodhi says it has a karma of 9, but if you count it, it's >>13+ and 10- >> >>And the kernel got -5 sin

Re: Push an update to F-13

2010-03-08 Thread Paul Howarth
On 08/03/10 13:29, Laurent Rineau wrote: > What is the new process to push an update to F-13 between alpha and beta? The > packages I have in mind are out of the set of critical packages. The same process you would use to push an update to F-12 - Bodhi. Paul. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fe

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20100306 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Quentin Armitage
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 19:32 +, Branched Report wrote: > > Updated Packages: > > avrdude-5.10-1.fc12 > --- > * Fri Feb 19 2010 Bart Vanbrabant - 5.10-1 > - New upstream version. Several new devices and programmers supported. Some > bugfixes and a new features to apply ext

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Josh Boyer wrote: > 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it > will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out > updates > after that are pushed stable except in very rare cases. I'll ask again: Why does bodhi accept karma or comments a

Re: Harmless KDE feature upgrades - yeah right

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
A segfaulty version of KDE filelight seems to have been pushed into F13, F12 and (astonishingly) F11. Just filing a bug about that one ... Rich. -- Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones Read my programming blog: http://rwmj.wordpress.com Fedora now suppo

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:55:34AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >Josh Boyer wrote: >> 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it >> will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out >> updates >> after that are pushed stable except in ver

How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread Quentin Armitage
My F-13 system produces the following output from yum list extras: Extra Packages glibc.i686 2.11.90-14 installed glibc-common.i686 2.11.90-14 installed glibc-devel.i686 2.11.90-14 @updates-testing glibc-headers.i686

Re: How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread Seth Vidal
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Quentin Armitage wrote: > The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have > been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the current version again. What > is the mechanism for becoming aware that a package that has been > installed through updates-testing ha

What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
So I submitted a rebuild for libguestfs in F-13 (just now). This was built against: plymouth-core-libs 0.8.0-0.20100114.2.fc13 But the version of plymouth that I get when I install plymouth from F-13 updates-testing on a local machine (after 'yum --enablerepo=\* clean all') is: plymouth-core-l

Re: What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-03-08 Thread Josh Boyer
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 03:29:37PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > >So I submitted a rebuild for libguestfs in F-13 (just now). This >was built against: > >plymouth-core-libs 0.8.0-0.20100114.2.fc13 Yes, that's what in dist-f13. You can view this with: koji latest-pkg dist-f13 or for the b

Re: What are the rules for which package we build against in F-13?

2010-03-08 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 10:37:43AM -0500, Josh Boyer wrote: > The buildroots are populated from packages in the: > > dist-f13 > dist-f13-override > dist-f12-updates > > tags. If a package isn't in one of those tags, it's not going to be in the > buildroot. If you need to build against a newer v

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:27 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : > > > The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 - > > that's over 80% - in favour of 'adventurous' updates. > > Advanced users (those most likely to want a

[Bug 570979] UTF8 PO files not being read as UTF8

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=570979 --- Comment #3 from Iain Arnell 2010-03-08 11:07:52 EST --- Sorry, all, I'm not trying to be difficult, but I know that upstream

rawhide report: 20100308 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Mar 8 08:15:10 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- ale-0.9.0.3-2.fc12.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2 autotrace-0.31.1-23.fc12.i686 requires libMagickCore.so.2 blahtexml-0.6-5.fc12.i686 requires l

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
On Monday 08 March 2010, Daniel J Walsh wrote: > On 03/07/2010 09:48 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > > Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch > > > > 64/215 > > libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in > > module: type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ > > n

Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread Matt Ford
Hi All, I am looking at building a fedora package. I have been over guidelines and taken a look at the build system. What I am not clear on is how I maintain spec files for different distributions i.e., F12, F11, F10, or even EPEL. Do I have to branch and maintain each spec file separately o

Re: Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread Steve Traylen
On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 5:50 PM, Matt Ford wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking at building a fedora package.  I have been over guidelines > and taken a look at the build system.  What I am not clear on is how I > maintain spec files for different distributions i.e., F12, F11, F10, or > even EPEL. In

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 8 mars 2010 17:05, Adam Williamson a écrit : > I don't think that's an assertion you have any kind of evidence to > support. It's really quite sad that half the people who've responded to > the poll have done so by attempting to poke holes in it, as it happens > not to line up with what t

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Doug Ledford
On 03/08/2010 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:27 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> >> Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : >> >>> The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, it's 34-8 - >>> that's over 80% - in favour of 'adventurous' updates

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Will Woods
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 13:15 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:04:31 -0800 > Adam Williamson wrote: > > ...snip... > > > What do people make of this? > > I'm no expert on polls/polling, but I suspect that many of the people > who are more interested in a 'stable/less updates' Fe

Re: Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 08 March 2010, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > Hello All! > > I just found that many java-related packages have packaging issues, > and one of them draws my attention - explicit "Requires: %{name} = > %{version}-%{release}" in some *-javadoc packages. Since my java > experience is rather small,

Upcoming Fedora 13 Schedule

2010-03-08 Thread John Poelstra
Start End Name Thu 04-Mar Tue 09-Mar Stage & Sync Alpha to Mirrors Tue 09-Mar Tue 09-Mar Alpha Public Availability Tue 09-Mar Tue 23-Mar Alpha Testing Fri 12-Mar Fri 12-Mar Beta Blocker Meeting (F13Beta) #1 Tue 16-Mar Tue 16-Mar Software: Start Rebuild all translated package

Re: Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Chen Lei
From package guideline Requiring Base Package Devel packages must require the base package using a fully versioned dependency: Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}. Usually, subpackages other than -devel should also require the base package using a fully versioned dependency.

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:05:12AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > If you think the poll is wrong - provide some data to disprove it. > Counteracting it with yet more assertions built on precisely no evidence > is not convincing. The evidence that it's wrong is that it's a self-selected sample se

libedit: transferring ownership

2010-03-08 Thread Debarshi Ray
I would like to transfer ownership of the libedit package to Kamil Dudka (kdudka). I am a bit wary of PackageDB transferring not letting me select the new owner. Could someone please take care of it or advise what I need to do about this? I do not want to remain as a co-maintainer. Thanks, Debars

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:27:07PM +0200, Juha Tuomala wrote: > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > >> Yes, it can get confusing. I think it was Kevin Kofler who suggested to > >> talk about "feature releases" vs. "bugfix releases" instead > >> to avoid confusion. > > > > Again yo

Re: Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread BJ Dierkes
On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: >> > It is true that the separate .spec files are maintained separately. What many > people try and do is maintain them as identical, at least at the start. > Have a look at: > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/DistTag#Conditionals > of co

Re: Upcoming Bugzilla Changes

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 20:07 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 08:14:38AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 13:27 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > > > > > Especially it needs to be made sure that only bugs created prior to > > > adding "F13" to RedHat Bugzilla or the

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 10:07:05 -0500, Josh wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 08:55:34AM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >Josh Boyer wrote: > >> 2) Karma after it goes to stable is good for informational purposes, but it > >> will not cause an update to get removed from Stable. We don't back out

[Bug 569298] Branch perl-Hash-WithDefaults for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569298 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl 2010-03-08 13:26:07 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I have no problems with

[Bug 569295] Branch perl-Hash-Case for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569295 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl 2010-03-08 13:26:08 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I have no problems with

[Bug 569301] Branch perl-Config-IniHash for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569301 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl 2010-03-08 13:26:07 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I have no problems with

[Bug 569299] Branch perl-PerlIO-gzip for EPEL

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=569299 --- Comment #1 from Chris Weyl 2010-03-08 13:26:08 EST --- I'm trying to avoid EPEL at the moment, but I have no problems with

Re: Should %{name}-javadoc package require %{name}?

2010-03-08 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 08 March 2010, Chen Lei wrote: > Requiring Base Package > > Devel packages must require the base package using a fully versioned > dependency: Requires: %{name} = %{version}-%{release}. Usually, > subpackages other than -devel should also require the base package using a > fully version

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread leigh scott
Last time I looked at the admin logs for Fedoraforum i.e who's voted , there was at least 15 votes from Fedora project members. On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 18:12 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Adam, if you can't realise that the users most likely to haunt a support forum > are the people most like

Re: How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread Quentin Armitage
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:26 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Quentin Armitage wrote: > > > The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have > > been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the current version again. What > > is the mechanism for becoming aware tha

Re: Managing spec files

2010-03-08 Thread Neal Becker
BJ Dierkes wrote: > > On Mar 8, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Steve Traylen wrote: > >>> >> It is true that the separate .spec files are maintained separately. What >> many people try and do is maintain them as identical, at least at the >> start. Have a look at: >> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packagin

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Michael Schwendt wrote: > Nah. The same way you could consider all bodhi comments "spam". If you > are the first commenter of a popular package, you receive lots of > notifications for all subsequent comments (where sometimes people > even use bodhi to argue about something). Michael, how is posti

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 20:47 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > Then make it 3 months, 4 months... Leave it in testing forever if you > get too many complaints. But make it available for those who want it. This is not the purpose of updates-testing, it is not an alternative update repo. It is there for

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 22:17 -0500, Orcan Ogetbil wrote: > And as you obviously didn't finish reading my sentence, that is not > the only solution I proposed. Read again, there is a 0 additional repo > proposal too. Having multiple package versions in a single repository is essentially like having

F-13 Branched report: 20100308 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Mon Mar 8 09:15:17 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- blahtexml-0.6-5.fc12.i686 requires libxerces-c.so.28 doodle-0.6.7-5.fc12.i686 requires libextractor.so.1 easystroke-0.5.2-1.fc13.i686 requires lib

[Bug 552616] branch perl-Glib for EPEL-5 please

2010-03-08 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=552616 --- Comment #3 from Kevin Fenzi 2010-03-08 13:41:11 EST --- Hey Spot. Any news here? Have you had a chance to look at the tests?

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/08/2010 06:28 AM, Rakesh Pandit wrote: > On 7 March 2010 20:18, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch >> 64/215 >> libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: >> type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ >> n_t (No

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:48 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch > 64/215 > libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: > type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\ > n_t (No such file or directory). > libsemanage

[389-devel] Please review: Bug 571514 - upgrade to 1.2.6 should upgrade 05rfc4523.ldif (cert schema)

2010-03-08 Thread Rich Megginson
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=571514 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398603&action=diff https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398603&action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-dev

How to install software without root password (PolicyKit?)

2010-03-08 Thread Valent Turkovic
Hi, Fedora 12 was planned to have installation of packages without users needing to enter root password. How do I enable this feature via PolicyKit? I read this article: http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/polkit-and-package-kit-and-changing-settings/ but even after doing that it is still the

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:29:23 -0600, Michael wrote: > Michael Schwendt wrote: > > Nah. The same way you could consider all bodhi comments "spam". If you > > are the first commenter of a popular package, you receive lots of > > notifications for all subsequent comments (where sometimes people > > ev

Re: should man-pages-* have Requires: man?

2010-03-08 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 03/08/2010 11:25 AM, Ivana Hutarova Varekova wrote: > For now in fedora there are 11 packages which contains language > mutations of man-pages (man-pages-{cs,da,de,es,fr,it,ja,ko,pl,ru,uk}) > and man-pages package. > Only 2 of them (man-pages-es, man-pages-it) requires man package. I

Re: How does one deal with obsoleted updates from updates-testing

2010-03-08 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 18:54 +, Quentin Armitage wrote: > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:26 -0500, Seth Vidal wrote: > > > > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010, Quentin Armitage wrote: > > > > > The glibc packages (including nscd) were in updates-testing, but have > > > been obsoleted, and so 2.11.90-12 is now the

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Daniel J Walsh
On 03/08/2010 02:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:48 -0500, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Updating : selinux-policy-targeted-3.6.32-92.fc12.noarch >> 64/215 >> libsepol.scope_copy_callback: audioentropy: Duplicate declaration in module: >> type/attribute entropyd_var_ru\

Re: How to install software without root password (PolicyKit?)

2010-03-08 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 20:51 +0100, Valent Turkovic wrote: > Hi, Fedora 12 was planned to have installation of packages without > users needing to enter root password. > > How do I enable this feature via PolicyKit? > > I read this article: > http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2009/11/18/polkit-and-pack

Re: Karma threshold for kernel

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:29:23 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > u...@radiopresenter.me.uk (unauthenticated) - 2010-03-08 13:36:44 (karma: 0) > Error Type: Error Value: Error getting > repository data for installed, repository not foundFile : > /usr/share/PackageKit/helpers/yum/yumBackend.py

Re: Push scripts, mash (was: Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback))

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Woehlke
Michael Schwendt wrote: > There are just too many -devel packages and their dependencies to be ever > relevant to someone for multi-arch installs. Far more users install i686 on > 64-bit CPUs, and I have doubts that x86_64 installation users do much > development with i686 packages. At most they in

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 12:14 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > On 03/08/2010 11:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 10:27 +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > >> > >> Le Sam 6 mars 2010 20:04, Adam Williamson a écrit : > >> > >>> The numbers do surprise me, to be honest. As I write this, i

[389-devel] Please review: [Bug 199923] subtree search fails to find items under a db containing special characters

2010-03-08 Thread Noriko Hosoi
Subject: subtree search fails to find items under a db containing special characters https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=199923 This bug had been reopened due to the regression. [Proposed Fix] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=398612&action=diff https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

Re: usb_modeswitch by default

2010-03-08 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Fri, 05 Mar 2010 22:27:48 -0800 Dan Williams wrote: > > > I have taken over the maintainership from Robert, and the new > > > usb_modeswitch rpms are in rawhide now. > > > > And F-13? > > I'm pushing for F13 and F12 at least :) I usually end up getting the > bugs when modems don't switch, I

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Richard Hughes
On 8 March 2010 19:47, Adam Williamson wrote: > Is there a sekrit PK mode you can use to get such output, does anyone > know? Maybe if I just launch it from a console... No, but I could do such a thing if you file an enhancement bug. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: Push scripts, mash (was: Re: FESCo wants to ban direct stable pushes in Bodhi (urgent call for feedback))

2010-03-08 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:29:42 -0600, Matthew wrote: > > There are just too many -devel packages and their dependencies to be ever > > relevant to someone for multi-arch installs. Far more users install i686 on > > 64-bit CPUs, and I have doubts that x86_64 installation users do much > > development

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > I can't find the wiki page documenting buildroot overrides so I can't > confirm this. I thought that releng was asking for the overrides to be > removed when the package was pushed to stable but I could be wrong. > https://fedoraproject

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 11:04 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > I thought to myself yesterday, 'what this long and fractious thread > about update policy *really* needs is some unscientific and > controversial numbers'. =) So, I ran a forum poll! Everyone loves those, > right? > > Here it is: http://f

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:24:24PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > I can't find the wiki page documenting buildroot overrides so I can't > > confirm this. I thought that releng was asking for the overrides to be > > removed when the packa

Re: F-13 Branched report: 20100306 changes

2010-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 14:54 +, Quentin Armitage wrote: > The report lists 3 fc12 packages as updates for F-13. Doing a yum update > of avrdude shows the new version as 5.10-2.fc13 and not 5.10-1.fc12 as > listed. For man-pages-it, yum update lists 2.80-5.fc13 and not > 2.80-5.fc12 as listed. >

Re: selinux-policy-targeted update failure

2010-03-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 21:18 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 8 March 2010 19:47, Adam Williamson wrote: > > Is there a sekrit PK mode you can use to get such output, does anyone > > know? Maybe if I just launch it from a console... > > No, but I could do such a thing if you file an enhancement b

Re: Update question: some user data

2010-03-08 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 12:34:03PM -0500, Will Woods wrote: > Adam's poll results are valid *only* for Fedora users who: > > a) Are members of the Fedora forum, > b) Enthusiasts/power-users to the degree that they would notice a new > threads/poll within a day of its posting, and > c) Hold a stro

F13 Release Slogan - Rock it.

2010-03-08 Thread Robyn Bergeron
For the 13th Release of Fedora, "Goddard," the Fedora Marketing team ran an open, community based process of slogan submissions, found at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_slogan_SOP. That process included guidelines for producing great slogans, and as a result of our call, we received a large

Proposed udpates policy change

2010-03-08 Thread Matthew Garrett
This is the policy that I expect to be discussed during the Fesco meeting tomorrow. This is entirely orthogonal to the ongoing discussions regarding whether updates in stable releases should be expected to provide features or purely bugfixes, and I don't see any conflict in introducing it befor

Re: Another great update

2010-03-08 Thread Jesse Keating
On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 16:32 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Mon, Mar 08, 2010 at 01:24:24PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 11:33 -0500, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > > I can't find the wiki page documenting buildroot overrides so I can't > > > confirm this. I thought that re

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