Re: yum appmarket

2010-09-01 Thread Martin Bacovsky
On Thursday, August 19, 2010 05:46 pm, seth vidal wrote > I mentioned this on: > http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/ > > last night but I thought I'd bring it up here: > > Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it > was hard

Re: yum appmarket

2010-09-01 Thread seth vidal
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 16:47 -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > > > Florian has already been working that out. He's got a pure-python script > > that grabs up the icons and we'll work on implementing them at the pkgdb > > layer. > > Hmm, you're say

Re: yum appmarket

2010-09-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:15 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > Florian has already been working that out. He's got a pure-python script > that grabs up the icons and we'll work on implementing them at the pkgdb > layer. Hmm, you're saying the client code would talk to pkgdb? -- devel mailing list devel@

Re: yum appmarket

2010-09-01 Thread Martin Bacovsky
On Sunday, August 29, 2010 08:15 pm, seth vidal wrote > On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 15:26 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > > On 29 August 2010 15:07, seth vidal wrote: > > > I realized after this that I don't even need it the pkgTags db that we > > > already generate has the information needed b/c all th

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-29 Thread seth vidal
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 15:26 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 29 August 2010 15:07, seth vidal wrote: > > I realized after this that I don't even need it the pkgTags db that we > > already generate has the information needed b/c all the apps are tagged > > with 'Application'. So no separate progra

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 29 August 2010 15:07, seth vidal wrote: > I realized after this that I don't even need it the pkgTags db that we > already generate has the information needed b/c all the apps are tagged > with 'Application'. So no separate program is needed to generate the app > metadata at all. What about ap

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-29 Thread seth vidal
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 14:06 +0100, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 19 August 2010 16:46, seth vidal wrote: > > Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it > > was hard to figure out what to install/try b/c there were too much STUFF > > in fedora. They suggested an ‘app stor

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-29 Thread Richard Hughes
On 19 August 2010 16:46, seth vidal wrote: > Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it > was hard to figure out what to install/try b/c there were too much STUFF > in fedora. They suggested an ‘app store’ like functionality. I explained > that all the resources to do

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-24 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Saturday, August 21, 2010 02:25:08 am Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few > > years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often > > confusing for users. I lost cou

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-23 Thread Matt McCutchen
On Mon, 2010-08-23 at 08:12 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Roberto Ragusa wrote: > > Some more tags for "functionally comparable to" and the name of > > some well known programs for Windows or Macintosh would let > > people cope with the original names of Linux apps. > > > > Nero -> k3b, xcdroast >

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-23 Thread Roberto Ragusa
Kevin Kofler wrote: > Roberto Ragusa wrote: >> Some more tags for "functionally comparable to" and the name of >> some well known programs for Windows or Macintosh would let >> people cope with the original names of Linux apps. >> >> Nero -> k3b, xcdroast >> Adobe Illustrator -> inkscape >> Adobe R

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Roberto Ragusa wrote: > Some more tags for "functionally comparable to" and the name of > some well known programs for Windows or Macintosh would let > people cope with the original names of Linux apps. > > Nero -> k3b, xcdroast > Adobe Illustrator -> inkscape > Adobe Reader -> evince, kpdf, okula

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-22 Thread Roberto Ragusa
seth vidal wrote: > I was just noodling around in the pkgtags db that I just posted about > and noticed that the a lot of pkgs have the 'Application' tag applied to > them. I could modify the appmarket plugin to use this information if it > is available. > > Coupling that data with tags like 'XFC

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 16:25 -0800, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few > > years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often > > confusing for users. I lost count of

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few > years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular and often > confusing for users. I lost count of the number of times I explained how > to change the default fil

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 22:55 +0200, drago01 wrote: > This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow > that and only display apps by default in the GUI. That would likely be a bad idea. Mandriva did something similar a few years back, before I left, and it was pretty unpopular a

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 18:03 -0400, seth vidal a écrit : > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > 3. you want a preview of the fonts - then we need that data somewhere - > is it in each font pkg? It would be (generating a svg or png with some font shapes at package build tim

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 22:55 +0200, drago01 a écrit : > > > This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow > > that and only display apps by default in the GUI. > > This is a very naïve position. For example, even in

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 22:55 +0200, drago01 a écrit : > This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow > that and only display apps by default in the GUI. This is a very naïve position. For example, even in a pure gui system, people want to select fonts (with previews), and f

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 22:55 +0200, drago01 wrote: > Thanks for working on this, the concept of "packages" should be an > implementation detail that much (desktop) users shouldn't have to care > about. > > This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow > that and only display a

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread drago01
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, seth vidal wrote: > I mentioned this on: > http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/ > > last night but I thought I'd bring it up here: > > Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it > was hard to figu

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Jon Masters
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 13:06 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > There is a "web app store" in PackageDB, which seems to have all of this: > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/ > > > yes, I know. > > And you'll notice that the pkgdb can generate a sqlite db of tags and > ranking info that yum can u

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Jon Masters
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 11:46 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > I mentioned this on: > http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/ Nice. This is cool. Perhaps one of the TG folks here can also whip out a prototype web page view of apps, with a logo having a screenshot a la

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:59 +0200, Till Maas wrote: > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:42:18PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: > > > On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > > ... > > > > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Till Maas
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:42:18PM -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: > > On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote: > > ... > > > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this is just > > > to prove that the infrastructure has been avail

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dennis J. wrote: > On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote: > ... > > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this is just > > to prove that the infrastructure has been available. > > What's missing is the ability to rate an app and comment on

Re: yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread Dennis J.
On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote: ... > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this is just > to prove that the infrastructure has been available. What's missing is the ability to rate an app and comment on it because that's really what deals with the "there is too muc

yum appmarket

2010-08-19 Thread seth vidal
I mentioned this on: http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/ last night but I thought I'd bring it up here: Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it was hard to figure out what to install/try b/c there were too much STUFF in fed