Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-20 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 05/18/2013 05:17 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: Le Sam 18 mai 2013 05:39, T.C. Hollingsworth a écrit : On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: You could transfer the install to a system which contains a dmraid array, or add a dmraid array to an existing install (I think this th

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-18 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 18.05.2013 11:17, schrieb Nicolas Mailhot: > > Le Sam 18 mai 2013 05:39, T.C. Hollingsworth a écrit : >> On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson >> wrote: >>> You could transfer the install to a system which contains a dmraid >>> array, or add a dmraid array to an existing install (

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-18 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Sam 18 mai 2013 05:39, T.C. Hollingsworth a écrit : > On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson > wrote: >> You could transfer the install to a system which contains a dmraid >> array, or add a dmraid array to an existing install (I think this thread >> has been considering only the cas

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > You could transfer the install to a system which contains a dmraid > array, or add a dmraid array to an existing install (I think this thread > has been considering only the case of the installed system itself being > on the RAID array). Of

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 19:17 -0700, T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: > On May 17, 2013 6:43 AM, "Chris Adams" wrote: > > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > > > I also filed this bug against anaconda, so that for the non-livecd > > > installs we don't even get dmraid installed... > > > > I know

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On May 17, 2013 6:43 AM, "Chris Adams" wrote: > Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > > I also filed this bug against anaconda, so that for the non-livecd > > installs we don't even get dmraid installed... > > I know there's always a goal of shrinking the base install, but I'm > afraid we'

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:43:36 -0500, Chris Adams wrote: By cutting out all the hardware support except for what is in the system at install, it becomes more difficult (like Windows) to deal with any problems, hardware upgrades, etc. down the road. Note that the change to defaulting to ho

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:43:36AM -0500, Chris Adams wrote: > By cutting out all the hardware support except for what is in the system > at install, it becomes more difficult (like Windows) to deal with any > problems, hardware upgrades, etc. down the road. Agreed, but I think hardware-which-requ

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Lennart Poettering said: > I also filed this bug against anaconda, so that for the non-livecd > installs we don't even get dmraid installed... I know there's always a goal of shrinking the base install, but I'm afraid we're going overboard. One nice thing about Linux vs. Window

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 17.05.13 09:05, Hans de Goede (hdego...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hi, > > On 05/17/2013 01:21 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >On Thu, 16.05.13 13:44, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > >>On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 20:41 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > >>>On 05/16/2013 08:17

Re: when startup delays become bugs (dmraid)

2013-05-17 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, On 05/17/2013 01:21 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Thu, 16.05.13 13:44, Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) wrote: On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 20:41 +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: On 05/16/2013 08:17 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: We *could* drop all the assorted local storage tools fr