Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-15 Thread drago01
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 08:38:52PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: >> > seriously? I don't think I ever said the list was all inclusive. >> And in my original reply I only asked some questions related to >> packages being considered "potenti

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-15 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 08:38:52PM +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > seriously? I don't think I ever said the list was all inclusive. > And in my original reply I only asked some questions related to > packages being considered "potentially unmaintained". Is there a secret definition of "potentia

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:34:54 -0400 (EDT), Seth wrote: > seriously? I don't think I ever said the list was all inclusive. Me neither. And in my original reply I only asked some questions related to packages being considered "potentially unmaintained". -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproj

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Seth Vidal
The subject says "potentially unmaintained packages". > The message makes a fuss about it, even mentions scenarios like retiring > packages. What it doesn't comment on is that despite missing rebuilds, > a package may still be maintained both in Fedora and upstream. It doesn't &

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 11:01:01 -0700, Adam wrote: > It seems to me that Seth quite carefully wrote his email specifically to > forestall replies of this kind. Apparently it wasn't enough... Of course not. The subject says "potentially unmaintained packages". The message makes

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-04-14 at 09:19 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT), Seth wrote: > > > Hi, > > I worked on a script back in January which produced a list of packages > > that needed to be looked at. The reason was that the pkg had not been > > built by koji in

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:09 AM, Jon Ciesla wrote: > I agree, and thought Seth made his point well.  I typically consider the > set of things in Fedora I need to worry about to be the set of bugs > assigned to me, plus the ones I've files, plus any FTFFS or broken deps > I'm aware of.  If somethin

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "TK" == Toshio Kuratomi writes: TK> Querying bugzilla is a comparatively expensive process so it's TK> probably something we need to do by syncing the count of bugs into TK> the db via a cron job. Any takers? I could probably whip something up. - J< -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fe

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:38:03AM +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 13.04.2010, 17:03 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal: > > > http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/potentially-unmaintained/2010-04-13/ > > I see packages_by_user, pkgs_with_bugs and everything. What I would like > to see i

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 05:03:55PM -0400, Seth Vidal wrote: > Hi, > > "Hey, this pkg hasn't been built, even in rawhide, in a while, maybe you > should 1. check that out and 2. if the pkg is dead or unmaintained > consider retiring it." The junction with bug information is also interesting. I t

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 12:20:05PM +0200, Felix Kaechele wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On 14.04.2010 09:19, Michael Schwendt wrote: > > > Why would it need to be rebuilt manually? > > You don't need to. If a package is working perfectly fine and no update > is available there's no need to rebuild. >

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Jon Ciesla
On 04/14/2010 05:20 AM, Felix Kaechele wrote: > Hi Michael, > > On 14.04.2010 09:19, Michael Schwendt wrote: > >> Why would it need to be rebuilt manually? > > You don't need to. If a package is working perfectly fine and no update > is available there's no need to rebuild. > >>> "Hey, this pkg has

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Michael Schwendt wrote: > On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT), Seth wrote: > >> Hi, >> I worked on a script back in January which produced a list of packages >> that needed to be looked at. The reason was that the pkg had not been >> built by koji into dist-rawhide by

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Seth Vidal
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Dienstag, den 13.04.2010, 17:03 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal: > >> http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/potentially-unmaintained/2010-04-13/ > > I see packages_by_user, pkgs_with_bugs and everything. What I would like > to see is pkgs_with_bugs_by_u

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:20:05 +0200, Felix wrote: > >> "Hey, this pkg hasn't been built, even in rawhide, in a while, maybe you > >> should 1. check that out and 2. if the pkg is dead or unmaintained > >> consider retiring it." > > > > It's stable, works, and is still being used by dependencies. Wo

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Felix Kaechele
Hi Michael, On 14.04.2010 09:19, Michael Schwendt wrote: > Why would it need to be rebuilt manually? You don't need to. If a package is working perfectly fine and no update is available there's no need to rebuild. >> "Hey, this pkg hasn't been built, even in rawhide, in a while, maybe you >> s

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Dienstag, den 13.04.2010, 17:03 -0400 schrieb Seth Vidal: > http://skvidal.fedorapeople.org/misc/potentially-unmaintained/2010-04-13/ I see packages_by_user, pkgs_with_bugs and everything. What I would like to see is pkgs_with_bugs_by_user, because this is something that should really consider

Re: potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-14 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT), Seth wrote: > Hi, > I worked on a script back in January which produced a list of packages > that needed to be looked at. The reason was that the pkg had not been > built by koji into dist-rawhide by a non-automated process in more than 6 > months. W

potentially unmaintained packages

2010-04-13 Thread Seth Vidal
Hi, I worked on a script back in January which produced a list of packages that needed to be looked at. The reason was that the pkg had not been built by koji into dist-rawhide by a non-automated process in more than 6 months. This list is NOT to shame or embarass anyone. It is only to say: