Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-27 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 04:51:42PM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 04:24:16PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Friday, 24 February 2017 at 15:31, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:48:43AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2017-02-27 at 18:15 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > * Mandating that all dependency changes in package updates in a stable > >    release MUST be mentioned in bodhi update release notes and justified. > > Why does the packager have to do this, when bodhi itself could read > the before

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-27 Thread Dan Horák
On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 18:15:32 + "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:53:01PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' > Mierzejewski wrote: > > Dear Fedora developers, > > there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable > > branch brought in new dependencies and in signifi

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-27 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:53:01PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > Dear Fedora developers, > there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable branch > brought in new dependencies and in significant numbers. The most recent > case was discussed on this list even today:

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 04:24:16PM +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Friday, 24 February 2017 at 15:31, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:48:43AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > On 23 February 2017 at 12:24, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > > wrote

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 24 February 2017 at 17:28, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 24 February 2017 at 11:19, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > >> You both sound as if you're thinking I'm totally against introducing new > >> dependencies. > > > > No. I didn't take that to be your view at all. I am going more w

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 24 February 2017 at 11:19, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> You both sound as if you're thinking I'm totally against introducing new >> dependencies. > > No. I didn't take that to be your view at all. I am going more with > the fact that you ran into a wall, and then you decided to smash your >

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 24 February 2017 at 10:24, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Friday, 24 February 2017 at 15:31, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: >> On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:48:43AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> > On 23 February 2017 at 12:24, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski >> > wrote: >> > > On Th

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Friday, 24 February 2017 at 15:31, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:48:43AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > On 23 February 2017 at 12:24, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > wrote: > > > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 14:23, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > > > I have noth

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 08:48:43AM -0500, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 23 February 2017 at 12:24, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 14:23, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > I have nothing against delivering latest and greatest software to our > > users and thi

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-24 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 23 February 2017 at 12:24, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 14:23, Neal Gompa wrote: > I have nothing against delivering latest and greatest software to our > users and this proposal is not against that goal, either. However, > package maintainers are no

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-23 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 14:23, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 07:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > >> On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > >> > On Thursday, 23 February

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-23 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/23/2017 02:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 07:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 00:08, Adam Williamson

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-23 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 07:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: >> > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 00:08, Adam Williamson wrote: >> > > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 2

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-23 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 07:16, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 00:08, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 22:53 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > > > wrote: > > > > Dear Fedora d

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-22 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 02/23/2017 02:23 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 00:08, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 22:53 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: Dear Fedora developers, there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable branch b

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-22 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Thursday, 23 February 2017 at 00:08, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 22:53 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski > wrote: > > Dear Fedora developers, > > there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable branch > > brought in new dependencies and in significant numb

Re: policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2017-02-22 at 22:53 +0100, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > Dear Fedora developers, > there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable branch > brought in new dependencies and in significant numbers. The most recent > case was discussed on this list even today: > http

policy on changes in or introduction of new dependencies

2017-02-22 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
Dear Fedora developers, there have been a number of examples where an update in a stable branch brought in new dependencies and in significant numbers. The most recent case was discussed on this list even today: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/BVU