Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Matthew Garrett
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 01:40:59PM +, Mark R Bannister wrote: > I sense an attitude of "not my responsibility" here, and a wider problem with > the > way that Linux is developed. Jared told me in this posting > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-December/160499.html that > F

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/16/2011 03:40 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: Mark R Bannister (m...@proseconsulting.co.uk) said: that affect critical components such as glibc. Now you're telling me that when you collectively make decisions about what goes into Fedora, you have no regard for what the knock-on effect is for d

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Bill Nottingham
Mark R Bannister (m...@proseconsulting.co.uk) said: > that affect critical components such as glibc. Now you're telling me that > when > you collectively make decisions about what goes into Fedora, you have no > regard > for what the knock-on effect is for downstream, not even how that might >

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Jared K. Smith
precate your separate > nss_db package, and continue to package nss_db separately using source from > http://sf.net/projects/nssdb. Mark, I've contacted the glibc maintainer in Fedora, who is swamped with work right now, but he's agreed to look over your proposal as quickly as he can. I

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 12/16/2011 01:40 PM, Mark R Bannister wrote: On 16th Dec 2011, 11:37, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: On 12/16/2011 09:26 AM, Mark R Bannister wrote: If this isn't fixed now, in Fedora, then it's likely to cause more pain when it finally reaches RHEL. Fedora does not have any bearing on what d

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 12/14/2011 10:02 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: That reminds me that you were talking to the glibc upstream about their sometimes cavalier attitude to significant changes. How did that go? Did you get a sense that they understood where we

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Mark R Bannister
hen RHEL6 will be supported for years to come. By your statement "if you can't prepare your infrastructure for these changes ..." it sounds to me like you're happy to be causing pain for system administrators. Change is sometimes a necessity, yes, but change for the sake of

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
.On 12/16/2011 09:26 AM, Mark R Bannister wrote: If this isn't fixed now, in Fedora, then it's likely to cause more pain when it finally reaches RHEL. Fedora does not have any bearing on what downstream distribution based on Fedora be it Red Hat or something else do. So even in the unlikely

Re: nss_db

2011-12-16 Thread Mark R Bannister
On Wed 14/12/11 21:08 , Josh Boyer jwbo...@gmail.com sent: > On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Mark R Bannister proseconsulting.co.uk> >>> > that the nss_db package has been deprecated, and that the new nss_db >>> > support in >>> > glibc no longer use

Re: Re: nss_db

2011-12-14 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Mark R Bannister >> > that the nss_db package has been deprecated, and that the new nss_db >> > support in >> > glibc no longer uses Berkeley DB format. >> >> I appreciate your concerns, but unfortunately most of the glibc

Re: Re: nss_db

2011-12-14 Thread Mark R Bannister
s one: > > > > http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=2666d441c2d8107b1987b869714189af64b954c6 > > > > that the nss_db package has been deprecated, and that the new nss_db > > support in > > glibc no longer uses Berkeley DB format. > > I appreci

Re: nss_db

2011-12-14 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > That reminds me that you were talking to the glibc upstream about their > sometimes cavalier attitude to significant changes. How did that go? Did you > get a sense that they understood where we're coming from? My discussion with the gli

Re: nss_db

2011-12-14 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 12/14/2011 08:44 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: I appreciate your concerns, but unfortunately most of the glibc development decisions happen in the upstream glibc community, and we in Fedora don't always have a lot of pull when it comes to those sorts of decisions. That reminds me that you were

Re: nss_db

2011-12-14 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 8:16 AM, Mark R Bannister wrote: > I note from this posting: > > http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-July/153665.html > > And this one: > > http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=2666d441c2d8107b1987b869714189af64b954c

Re: nss_db

2011-12-14 Thread Mark R Bannister
I note from this posting: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2011-July/153665.html And this one: http://sourceware.org/git/?p=glibc.git;a=commit;h=2666d441c2d8107b1987b869714189af64b954c6 that the nss_db package has been deprecated, and that the new nss_db support in glibc no

Re: nss_db

2011-07-01 Thread Nalin Dahyabhai
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 02:15:21PM +0200, Andreas Schwab wrote: > glibc now includes libnss_db again, so the nss_db package is no longer > needed from f16 onward. Okay, I've updated git, pkgdb, and comps, and filed a ticket with release engineering to block the builds from the compo

nss_db

2011-07-01 Thread Andreas Schwab
glibc now includes libnss_db again, so the nss_db package is no longer needed from f16 onward. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6F00 984E "And now for something completely different." -- devel mailing