Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-29 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 04/29/2011 12:14 AM, Petr Sabata wrote: > Why don't we let the getaddrinfo() decide in this case as well? It's already > used in other applications so why not here? Just to give it some more exposure (somewhat related): https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=697149 getaddrinfo() sho

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Petr Sabata
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 06:57:53AM -0700, Wes Hardaker wrote: > > On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:59:09 +0200, Reindl Harald > > said: > > RH> Am 28.04.2011 01:17, schrieb Itamar Reis Peixoto: > >> why ipv6 and ipv4 have different name for the tools ? > ... > RH> because the same hostname can hav

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Wes Hardaker said: > I'm all for a single unified set of commands (-4, -6). The real > question, is what should the default be? And if 4 now, when do you > switch later? [thus, I think -both now with v6 first if a is > available otherwise v4 is probably the right answer]

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.04.2011 19:28, schrieb Wes Hardaker: >> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:10:49 +0200, Reindl Harald >> said: > > RH> you can not change after 30 years way a basic-command works > RH> like changing default to IPv6 without producing a lot > RH> of troubles out there, make now a unifified comm

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 16:10:49 +0200, Reindl Harald > said: RH> you can not change after 30 years way a basic-command works RH> like changing default to IPv6 without producing a lot RH> of troubles out there, make now a unifified command RH> with IPv4 as default and change it later to IP

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.04.2011 15:57, schrieb Wes Hardaker: >> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:59:09 +0200, Reindl Harald >> said: > > RH> Am 28.04.2011 01:17, schrieb Itamar Reis Peixoto: >>> why ipv6 and ipv4 have different name for the tools ? > ... > RH> because the same hostname can have A and AAA records >

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:59:09 +0200, Reindl Harald > said: RH> Am 28.04.2011 01:17, schrieb Itamar Reis Peixoto: >> why ipv6 and ipv4 have different name for the tools ? ... RH> because the same hostname can have A and AAA records That argument makes sense up until the point that you r

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread David Woodhouse
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 23:57 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Chuck Anderson wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:59:09AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > >> because the same hostname can have A and AAA records > >> and the people commonly use ping (sysadmins) must be > >> able to

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Steve Clark
On 04/27/2011 11:57 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Chuck Anderson wrote: On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:59:09AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: because the same hostname can have A and AAA records and the people commonly use ping (sysadmins) must be able to decide what they will test? U

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.04.2011 03:38, schrieb Chuck Anderson: > Do you propose we add telnet6, ftp6, ssh6, etc commands? for ftp/ssh it is not relevant what protocol who is using ping? network-admins for what is ping used? to see if a connection works signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-27 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011, Chuck Anderson wrote: > On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:59:09AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> because the same hostname can have A and AAA records >> and the people commonly use ping (sysadmins) must be >> able to decide what they will test? > > Use -4 -or -6 parameters if you car

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-27 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 02:59:09AM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > because the same hostname can have A and AAA records > and the people commonly use ping (sysadmins) must be > able to decide what they will test? Use -4 -or -6 parameters if you care to force one vs. the other. > most times you ping

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-27 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 28.04.2011 01:17, schrieb Itamar Reis Peixoto: > why ipv6 and ipv4 have different name for the tools ? > > for example > > ping6 and ping > > I think it's possible writing a wrapper to detect if a ip is v4 or v6 > and execute the correct cmd, > > what fedora guys think about this ? becau

Re: ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-27 Thread Stefan Schulze Frielinghaus
On Mi, 2011-04-27 at 20:17 -0300, Itamar Reis Peixoto wrote: > why ipv6 and ipv4 have different name for the tools ? > > for example > > ping6 and ping > > I think it's possible writing a wrapper to detect if a ip is v4 or v6 > and execute the correct cmd, $ ping{6} www.kame.net If you are u

ipv6 tools + ipv4 tools fusion.

2011-04-27 Thread Itamar Reis Peixoto
why ipv6 and ipv4 have different name for the tools ? for example ping6 and ping I think it's possible writing a wrapper to detect if a ip is v4 or v6 and execute the correct cmd, what fedora guys think about this ? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorap