Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-17 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2014-06-16, 15:06 GMT, drago01 wrote: >> yum-cron can actually apply updates [] > > That sounds dangerous ... updates are not really atomic (i.e not at > all) doing them silently in the background is a very bad idea. Yes, yum-cron has been hated by Seth for years, but there was still this

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > > > > On 16 June 2014 09:22, drago01 wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> >> > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ev

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 16 June 2014 09:22, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > >> > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the > name > >> > is any indication, it is just a thing which kee

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:56 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:22:56PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> Admin: "OK I will reboot box 'foo'" >> >> *boom* >> (well actually that case can be "solved" by using systemd-inhibitors >> ... does it do that?) > > It doesn't currently, but that

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 17:49:08 +0200 Tim Lauridsen wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker > wrote: > > > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. > > > > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement > > > > > dnf's cache is updated by by a systemd service, n

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:22:56PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > Admin: "OK I will reboot box 'foo'" > > *boom* > (well actually that case can be "solved" by using systemd-inhibitors > ... does it do that?) It doesn't currently, but that's a good suggestion. Hmmm -- actually, it seems like both yum a

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
Tim Lauridsen wrote: > Bugzilla is the right place for a an RFE, not fdl :) > > Tim > > > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > >> Been using yum-cron for years with good results. >> >> If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement >> https://bugzilla.redhat.co

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Tim Lauridsen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. > > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement > > dnf's cache is updated by by a systemd service, not dynamic when executed like yum. so if yum-cron is only used to update the

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 16.06.2014 17:41, schrieb drago01: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: >> This server is almost never rebooted, and in many years running yum-cron I've >> never had any problem. >> >> What is the difference between automated update vs. a manual update, in terms >> of potentia

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Farkas Levente
On 06/16/2014 05:06 PM, drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement >>> Already ex

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:37 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > drago01 wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller >> wrote: >>> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the > name > is any

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
drago01 wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller > wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >>> > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name >>> > is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up to date. >>>

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: >> > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name >> > is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up to date. >> > yum-cron can actually

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 05:06:45PM +0200, drago01 wrote: > > That's not the most descriptiony of all descriptions ever, but if the name > > is any indication, it is just a thing which keeps the cache up to date. > > yum-cron can actually apply updates [] > That sounds dangerous ... updates are

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Petr Spacek
On 16.6.2014 17:06, drago01 wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement Already exists: $ rpm -ql dnf

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread drago01
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: >> > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. >> > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement >> Already exists: >> $ rpm -ql dnf | grep systemd >> /usr

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 09:11:43AM -0500, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: > > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. > > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement > Already exists: > $ rpm -ql dnf | grep systemd > /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.service > /usr/lib/systemd/sy

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Jeffrey Ollie
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. > > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement Already exists: $ rpm -ql dnf | grep systemd /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache.service /usr/lib/systemd/system/dnf-makecache

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Lubomir Rintel
On Mon, 2014-06-16 at 08:50 -0400, Neal Becker wrote: > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. > > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement https://github.com/akozumpl/dnf/blob/master/etc/systemd/dnf-makecache.service I think it comes with the dnf distribution packag

Re: dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Tim Lauridsen
Bugzilla is the right place for a an RFE, not fdl :) Tim On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 2:50 PM, Neal Becker wrote: > Been using yum-cron for years with good results. > > If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement > > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https:/

dnf replacement for yum-cron

2014-06-16 Thread Neal Becker
Been using yum-cron for years with good results. If yum is being phased out, I'll want a dnf-cron replacement -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct