On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:56:03AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > >
> > > > It
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56 AM Colin Walters wrote:
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> What I was pointing at is the Fedora CoreOS *LIVE* ISO, which is definitely
> fully read only (or phased more usefully), does not support persistence
> at all because physical ISOs don't - same as any other "Live" system
> from Anaconda to al
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > > root f
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:32:12PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > >
Hi,
On 03/07/2020 14:18, Colin Walters wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
root file system,
Eh, just mount a tmpfs for /var, and an overlayfs for /etc (backed by a tmpfs).
That's what
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > root file system,
>
> Eh, just mount a tmpfs for /var, and an overlayfs for /etc (bac
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system,
Eh, just mount a tmpfs for /var, and an overlayfs for /etc (backed by a tmpfs).
That's what we do for Fedora CoreOS based live images, se
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> I presume you're referring to regular Fedora here, but this description
> feels like it is approx asking for what Fedora Silverblue has delivered,
> only with the writable area for apps being just a ram disk with no
> persistence.
No
On 03.07.2020 13:42, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Ubuntu's MOTD requires network connectivity to function, I think ours
> would not. That would eliminate the network resource contention issues
> you were seeing.
The good MOTD is an empty MOTD.
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Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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On 03.07.2020 08:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a
> lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we
> should in general.
Ubuntu MOTD contains ads. Most of Ubuntu users completely disable it
right after the ins
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 6:50 AM Roberto Ragusa wrote:
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> On 2020-07-03 08:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a
> > lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we
> > should in general.
>
> Do not follow Ubunt
On 2020-07-03 08:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a
lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we
should in general.
Do not follow Ubuntu on this too much.
I've had a case of a machine with many short-lived
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:17:58PM -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> On 7/2/20 3:10 PM, Christopher Engelhard wrote:
> >On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> >>root file system, all the way to the graphical envi
On 7/2/20 3:10 PM, Christopher Engelhard wrote:
On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
root file system, all the way to the graphical environment. Obviously,
such a machine will not be fully functional, but for us
On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system, all the way to the graphical environment. Obviously,
> such a machine will not be fully functional, but for users, debugging a
> disk problem when they hav
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 06:27:44PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 02.07.2020 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > root file system, all the way to the graphical environment.
>
> Already implemented - Silv
On 02.07.2020 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system, all the way to the graphical environment.
Already implemented - Silverblue.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 05:05:09PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:53:26PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> > default, but makes sense independently too...
> >
> > It would be
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 12:05 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:53:26PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> > default, but makes sense independently too...
> >
> > It would be great if
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:53:26PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> default, but makes sense independently too...
>
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system, all th
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:54 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> default, but makes sense independently too...
>
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file syst
Hi,
this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
default, but makes sense independently too...
It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
root file system, all the way to the graphical environment. Obviously,
such a machine will not be fully functional,
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