Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-20 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "AP" == Alexander Ploumistos writes: AP> However, in his last message, he left open the possibility of AP> negotiating a different license for/with Fedora Project, but I don't AP> feel I am the right person to engage in any further negotiations AP> with him. This really should get to le...

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-20 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Yesterday evening George Douros uploaded updated versions of almost every font I maintain, as well as the new "license": http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/License.pdf As you can see, there is no ambiguity, the text - despite its shortcomings - presents a number of obstacles to the inclusion of the fo

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-09 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le 2018-04-08 10:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek a écrit : >>> >>> Nothing is set in stone yet, but some >>> time soon he is going to upload a whole new license text (hopefully in >>> English), probably something custom-made. > > > Try to

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-04-08 10:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek a écrit : Nothing is set in stone yet, but some time soon he is going to upload a whole new license text (hopefully in English), probably something custom-made. Try to point it to the OFL and its FAQ, it has been created exactly for this purpos

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-09 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le 2018-04-08 14:55, Alexander Ploumistos a écrit : My concern is if he can retroactively apply the new license to the older versions of the fonts. Is this a valid concern or is it not how licensing works? Legally, he can’t. We can ship existing fonts forever, however having an hostile upstre

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 11:58:29PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:30 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 02:55:49PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > >> My concern is if he can retroactively apply the new license to the > >> older

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 8:30 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 02:55:49PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: >> My concern is if he can retroactively apply the new license to the >> older versions of the fonts. Is this a valid concern or is it not how >> licensing wor

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sun, Apr 08, 2018 at 02:55:49PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hi Zbigniew, > > On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:44:41PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > >> - If it is indeed incompatible, would trying to convince hi

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hi Zbigniew, On Sun, Apr 8, 2018 at 10:11 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:44:41PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: >> - If it is indeed incompatible, would trying to convince him to adopt >> a dual license scheme be the best course of action? > You know this

Re: Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-08 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Sat, Apr 07, 2018 at 10:44:41PM +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Hello all, > > I doubt most of you know or care about George Douros' family of fonts, > as almost all of them are quite niche. However, there is one font in > particular, Symbola, that a number of users and packagers care for,

Upcoming gdouros-*-fonts license change and subsequent complications

2018-04-07 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Hello all, I doubt most of you know or care about George Douros' family of fonts, as almost all of them are quite niche. However, there is one font in particular, Symbola, that a number of users and packagers care for, since it follows closely all the Unicode additions and improvements. A few of