Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 10/6/20 3:14 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06.10.2020 22:11, Brandon Nielsen wrote: That link shows security fixes for 68.x from only a week ago. August 25, 2020 (68.12) vs. September 22, 2020 (78.3). But still, the last 68. release was 5 days ago[0], hardly seems unsupported.

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06.10.2020 22:11, Brandon Nielsen wrote: That link shows security fixes for 68.x from only a week ago. August 25, 2020 (68.12) vs. September 22, 2020 (78.3). -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@li

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 10/6/20 3:11 PM, Brandon Nielsen wrote: On 10/6/20 3:03 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06.10.2020 21:48, Brandon Nielsen wrote: Yes, but they clearly don't expect updates to work given the changes mentioned later in this thread and the release notes, and Fedora has users that will b

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 10/6/20 3:03 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06.10.2020 21:48, Brandon Nielsen wrote: Yes, but they clearly don't expect updates to work given the changes mentioned later in this thread and the release notes, and Fedora has users that will be updating that need to be considered. 78.

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06.10.2020 21:48, Brandon Nielsen wrote: Yes, but they clearly don't expect updates to work given the changes mentioned later in this thread and the release notes, and Fedora has users that will be updating that need to be considered. 78.3.1 includes security fixes[1]. 68.x has reached its

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06.10.2020 21:38, Gordon Messmer wrote: Thunderbird > 68 has significant API changes.  XUL has been completely removed for extensions, as well as numerous other breaking API changes, including to preferences and address books. Version 68.x is now EOL. It will no longer receive even security

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 10/6/20 2:45 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06.10.2020 21:24, Brandon Nielsen wrote: Sounds to me they don't expect 78.2.1 to be entirely compatible with profiles from the previous version. $ rpm -qa thunderbird thunderbird-78.3.1-1.fc32.x86_64 Version 78.3.1 is production ready. M

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/6/20 12:08 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: I'll put in a BZ as soon as I'm not tied up in meetings. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1885722 ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le.

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06.10.2020 21:24, Brandon Nielsen wrote: Sounds to me they don't expect 78.2.1 to be entirely compatible with profiles from the previous version. $ rpm -qa thunderbird thunderbird-78.3.1-1.fc32.x86_64 Version 78.3.1 is production ready. Mozilla has made it available to all Thunderbird user

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/6/20 12:22 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06.10.2020 21:08, Gordon Messmer wrote: I definitely think this should be rolled back.  We're past the beta freeze, and IMO, this violates the updates policy which states "Package maintainers MUST:   Avoid Major version updates, ABI break

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Brandon Nielsen
On 10/6/20 2:22 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 06.10.2020 21:08, Gordon Messmer wrote: I definitely think this should be rolled back.  We're past the beta freeze, and IMO, this violates the updates policy which states "Package maintainers MUST:   Avoid Major version updates, ABI breaka

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 06.10.2020 21:08, Gordon Messmer wrote: I definitely think this should be rolled back.  We're past the beta freeze, and IMO, this violates the updates policy which states "Package maintainers MUST:   Avoid Major version updates, ABI breakage, or API changes if at all possible." Thunderbird

Re: Thunderbird - Unpleasant Surprise

2020-10-06 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 10/6/20 4:29 AM, Ankur Sinha wrote: Thunderbird 78 seems to be a major "breaking" upgrade: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/78.2.1/releasenotes/#changes I definitely think this should be rolled back.  We're past the beta freeze, and IMO, this violates the updates policy which