Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-28 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 10:45 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > On 28 January 2010 01:16, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 01:47 +0200, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > >> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 23:08 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > >> > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : > >> > > I suspect a lo

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-28 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 28 January 2010 01:16, Matthew Saltzman wrote: > On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 01:47 +0200, Jussi Lehtola wrote: >> On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 23:08 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: >> > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : >> > > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed.  This is one of >> > > those k

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-28 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 28 January 2010 10:38, Richard Zidlicky wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:08:25PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: >> 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : >> > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed.  This is one of >> > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with i

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-28 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:08:25PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : > > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed.  This is one of > > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it. > > Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 01:47 +0200, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 23:08 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : > > > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed. This is one of > > > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 23:08 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > 2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : > > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed. This is one of > > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it. > > Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily migrat

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/27 Orion Poplawski : > I suspect a lot of our users will be similarly annoyed.  This is one of > those kinds of tools that "just works" and so people stick with it. Well.. perhaps. OTOH people seem to have happily migrated from xpdf to evince over time (or at least that's my perception). --

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Orion Poplawski
On 01/27/2010 12:45 PM, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 18:04 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: >> However, it's not clear to me if okular and evince-dvi provide >> equivalent functionality that we're yet in a position to drop xdvik. >> Comments? If you use xdvik because other viewers d

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Jussi Lehtola on 01/27/2010 01:45 PM wrote: > As a heavy LaTeX user I would be really against dropping xdvi before > there is some other app that runs as fast. Evince very slow - xdvi shows > pages straight away, whereas evince often displays "Loading..." How about profiling evince instead? perf

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Wed, 2010-01-27 at 18:04 +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > However, it's not clear to me if okular and evince-dvi provide > equivalent functionality that we're yet in a position to drop xdvik. > Comments? If you use xdvik because other viewers don't give some > particular functionality, it woul

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
2010/1/27 Till Maas : > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:04:49PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > >> However, it's not clear to me if okular and evince-dvi provide >> equivalent functionality that we're yet in a position to drop xdvik. >> Comments? If you use xdvik because other viewers don't give some

Re: The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 06:04:49PM +, Jonathan Underwood wrote: > However, it's not clear to me if okular and evince-dvi provide > equivalent functionality that we're yet in a position to drop xdvik. > Comments? If you use xdvik because other viewers don't give some > particular functionality,

The road to dropping xdvik

2010-01-27 Thread Jonathan Underwood
Dear All, We currently ship xdvik as a package separate to texlive (for a variety of reasons). Looking forward to when we ship texlive-2009, it'll be built as part of the texlive package build once more. However, even better would be to drop it entirely, for the following reasons: 1) It's a legac