Re: Texlive packaging (Was: A proposal for Fedora updates)

2015-04-13 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jindrich Novy wrote: > What's wrong with it? It is autogenerated, you are not supposed to touch > the spec file directly but edit texlive.spec.template and regenerate the > spec file by tl2rpm. All subpackages are generated with correct > dependencies (at least according to upstream metadata) and p

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-31 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2015-03-30, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> "GH" == Gerd Hoffmann writes: > >GH> Makes sense to me, not only for texlive, stuff like perl pkgs from >GH> cpan have pretty standard way to be built too. > > It's not just how the packages are built. There are also bundling and > license issues

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:28:21PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > > Actually "machine generated" isn't per se bad ... it saves a lot of > > effort and should be done more (for other packages too where > > possible). > > Why waste man power for something that can be automated? > > > > As for tex

Texlive packaging (Was: A proposal for Fedora updates)

2015-03-30 Thread Jindrich Novy
> On 03/27/2015 05:22 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > >* However, I'll note that the recent texlive updates were security as *> >* well. ;) *> > If texlive packaging is causing issues with update pushes, could maybe > ask the texlive maintainers to rework the packaging? TeX

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "GH" == Gerd Hoffmann writes: GH> Makes sense to me, not only for texlive, stuff like perl pkgs from GH> cpan have pretty standard way to be built too. It's not just how the packages are built. There are also bundling and license issues which require manual inspection. The only reason fo

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-30 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > If FPC would be open to bulk-approving machine-generated individual > spec files (given, say, they're provably all following the template, > which would be reviewed), and rel-eng has some way of bulk-adding the > necessary branches and builds, that really seems like a step forward to > me.

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-28 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2015-03-28 16:40 GMT-03:00 Florian Weimer : > * Matthew Miller: > >> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:28:21PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >>> Actually "machine generated" isn't per se bad ... it saves a lot of >>> effort and should be done more (for other packages too where >>> possible). >>> Why waste man po

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-28 Thread Florian Weimer
* Matthew Miller: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:28:21PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> Actually "machine generated" isn't per se bad ... it saves a lot of >> effort and should be done more (for other packages too where >> possible). >> Why waste man power for something that can be automated? >> >> As f

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-28 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2015-03-28 13:26 GMT-03:00 Jonathan Underwood : > On 28 March 2015 at 15:07, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade > wrote: >> I maintained a slowly evolving approach in Mandriva for some years, >> (but now it is quickly approaching one year I left Mandriva...), see the >> main script at >> https://abf

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-28 Thread Jonathan Underwood
On 28 March 2015 at 15:07, Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > I maintained a slowly evolving approach in Mandriva for some years, > (but now it is quickly approaching one year I left Mandriva...), see the > main script at > https://abf.rosalinux.ru/openmandriva/texlive-tlpkg/blob/master/tlp

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-28 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2015-03-27 16:58 GMT-03:00 Matthew Miller : > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:28:21PM +0100, drago01 wrote: >> Actually "machine generated" isn't per se bad ... it saves a lot of >> effort and should be done more (for other packages too where >> possible). >> Why waste man power for something that can

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 20:07 -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > > > > "MM" == Matthew Miller writes: > > MM> Basically, this is an end-run around the requirement of doing > MM> individual package reviews for a zillion completely separate > MM> packages, right? > > That was my opinion, but y

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "MM" == Matthew Miller writes: MM> Basically, this is an end-run around the requirement of doing MM> individual package reviews for a zillion completely separate MM> packages, right? That was my opinion, but you could argue the same for Perl, I suppose. We're essentially packaging a comple

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 08:28:21PM +0100, drago01 wrote: > Actually "machine generated" isn't per se bad ... it saves a lot of > effort and should be done more (for other packages too where > possible). > Why waste man power for something that can be automated? > > As for tex ... we could have a

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-27 Thread drago01
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 6:46 PM, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:34:58PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >> Personally I preferred the "thousand package review" scenario, but that >> never happened. Having a small number of subpackages, however, was >> never really something

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-27 Thread Matthew Miller
On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 12:34:58PM -0500, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > Personally I preferred the "thousand package review" scenario, but that > never happened. Having a small number of subpackages, however, was > never really something we on the packaging committee, at least, would > have allowe

Re: Texlive packaging

2015-03-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "KL" == Kalev Lember writes: KL> What do you mean with "were required to" ? There were many discussions during and after the big texlive license audit as to how to properly package the software. I can no longer remember exact dates because it's been a while; maybe someone else has a bette

Re: Texlive packaging (Was: A proposal for Fedora updates)

2015-03-27 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/27/2015 05:49 PM, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: >>>>>> "KL" == Kalev Lember writes: > > KL> If texlive packaging is causing issues with update pushes, could > KL> maybe ask the texlive maintainers to rework the packaging? > > The texlive pac

Texlive packaging (Was: A proposal for Fedora updates)

2015-03-27 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
>>>>> "KL" == Kalev Lember writes: KL> If texlive packaging is causing issues with update pushes, could KL> maybe ask the texlive maintainers to rework the packaging? The texlive packaging is basically the way they were required to do it way back when. It use