Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-05-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-04-14 at 17:22 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> Huh, you're sure? You have to either remove all removable NVRAM > boot entries, or you have to remove the file/device the entry points > to trigger the use of //BOOT/BOOT.efi. If this isn't working, > what does happen instead? It just han

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-15 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > No. Boot entries in NVRAM come first. See UEFI spec 2.4.0, section 3.4.1.2, > and 12.3.1.3 "This directory contains EFI images that aide in recovery if the > boot selections for the software installed on the EFI system partition are > eve

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: Create a boot menu entry can be skipped if it's not a dual boot system. /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT contains shim.ef

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 3:14 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >>> >>> Create a boot menu entry can be skipped if it's not a dual boot system. >>> /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT contains shim.efi as bootx64.efi which is run by default >>> on a system without

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 14, 2014, at 4:04 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> >> Create a boot menu entry can be skipped if it's not a dual boot system. >> /boot/efi/EFI/BOOT contains shim.efi as bootx64.efi which is run by default >> on a system without an NVRAM entry already pointing to shim or grub, and a >> f

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 2:55 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > >> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >>> >>> You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. >> >> Aha, a correct answer! Thanks! Based on this hint,

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 9, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >> You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. > > Aha, a correct answer! Thanks! Based on this hint, I think I figured > it out. I updated the > wiki accordingl

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-09 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:41 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > You need to install or reinstall grub2-efi and shim packages. Aha, a correct answer! Thanks! Based on this hint, I think I figured it out. I updated the wiki accordingly. Can you take a quick look at: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 8, 2014, at 4:29 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > $ sudo efibootmgr -v [snip] > Boot0003* grub > HD(1,800,4,75f192ff-2a82-4e4e-b83c-c41f3bb39847)File(\EFI\grub\grubx64.efi) Option A: This entry is correct if you aren't using UEFI Secure Boot, and you're using a grub2-install produce

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:14 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:54 +0200, Chris Murphy wrote: >> So everyone just needs to stop recommending reinstalling grub this >> way. > > I don't think anyone has actually explicitly recommended doing so for > UEFI; I just think the people who'

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Dan Scott
On Apr 8, 2014 3:19 AM, "Fred New" wrote: snip >> >> > And since Windows on my system places itself first in the EFI boot list >> > every time it >> > is booted, >> >> That's likely an issue in your system's firmware or Windows install >> (somehow). It shouldn't be doing that. > > > Yes, it seem

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:44 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: >> > >> > >> > >> > Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: >> > > Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it wa

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 10:54 +0200, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Fred New wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >> In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of > >> anything in it which is outdated. > >

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Chris Murphy
On Apr 8, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Fred New wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of >> anything in it which is outdated. >> > Sorry, my mistake. I thought this one also referred to Fedora 18. It

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-08 Thread Fred New
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 07:16 +0300, Fred New wrote: > > > The > > Unified Extensible Firmware Interface wiki page is rather outdated and > > unhelpful as well. > > In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of > anything

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 07:16 +0300, Fred New wrote: > The > Unified Extensible Firmware Interface wiki page is rather outdated and > unhelpful as well. In what way? I wrote it, just a month or two ago. I'm not aware of anything in it which is outdated. > If you have UEFI and you have run grub2-in

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
is that a fair understanding as you know the issue? Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 00:27 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: > > So just to refresh my underst

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-04-08 at 00:27 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: > So just to refresh my understanding of your setup: Neither I nor Fred are the original poster who had the problem. He hasn't posted to this thread since Thursday. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fe

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
So just to refresh my understanding of your setup: you have a non-bootable system with a standard uefi dual-boot? and you can't seem to get the bootloader (grub) to re-install Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Tue, Apr 8, 201

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 23:54 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: > grub2 is the default now with or without uefi But you don't run grub2-install on a UEFI native installation of Fedora. UEFI boot loading does not involve a bootloader installed in that manner. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Fred New
On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 4:49 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 20:20 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: > > its now grub2-install /dev/sdX > > It's not for UEFI. > -- > It would be good if someone who knows something could rewrite the GRUB_2 wiki page to say that. And to stop referring t

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
grub2 is the default now with or without uefi Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 9:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 20:20 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: > > its now grub2-install /dev/sdX > >

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2014-04-07 at 20:20 -0400, Corey Sheldon wrote: > its now grub2-install /dev/sdX It's not for UEFI. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedora

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Corey Sheldon
its now grub2-install /dev/sdX Corey W Sheldon Owner, 1st Class Mobile Shine 310.909.7672 www.facebook.com/1stclassmobileshine On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 8:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:44 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrot

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 19:44 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > > > > > Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > > > Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to > > > reinstall the bootloader using grub-install

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-04 Thread Fred New
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > > Am 04.04.2014 04:44, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > > On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > >> besides that it is the wrong list: > > > > What's the right list? > > the users list, not the developers list > > >> grub2-install >

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-04 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.04.2014 04:44, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: >> besides that it is the wrong list: > > What's the right list? the users list, not the developers list >> grub2-install > > $ grub2-install > /usr/sbin/grub2-probe: error: cannot find a GRUB dr

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Thu, Apr 3, 2014 at 8:09 PM, Ankur Sinha wrote: > On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 18:08 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: >> Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to >> reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. > > Just wondering if you've read this page yet: > > https://fedo

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Ankur Sinha
On Thu, 2014-04-03 at 18:08 -0700, Andrew Lutomirski wrote: > Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to > reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. Just wondering if you've read this page yet: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/GRUB_2?rd=Grub2 -- Thanks, Warm regards,

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
On Apr 3, 2014 7:18 PM, "Reindl Harald" wrote: > > > > Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > > Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to > > reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. > > besides that it is the wrong list: What's the right list? > grub2-

Re: Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 04.04.2014 03:08, schrieb Andrew Lutomirski: > Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to > reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. besides that it is the wrong list: grub2-install > Nowadays it's a clusterfsck. I've managed to screw up my bootloader. Is >

Reinstalling the bootloader

2014-04-03 Thread Andrew Lutomirski
Once upon a time (Fedora 15? -- I've lost track), it was possible to reinstall the bootloader using grub-install. Nowadays it's a clusterfsck. I've managed to screw up my bootloader. Is there a way to reinstall it without reinstalling the world? Would it make sense to split the whole bootloader