On Mon, 01.12.14 15:55, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote:
> Beside the selection of the NTP service that should enabled/disabled,
> there are some minor differences in the functionality. For instance,
> when setting the time, timedatex compensates for the time spent in the
> polkit aut
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 01:19:48PM -0500, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
> - Original Message -
> > One suggestion was to install it as a dependency of the NTP packages.
> > Is this a good idea? Should this first go through the Fedora change
> > process or at least be documented somewhere?
>
> I th
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said:
> On
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:53:45PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> >>> Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said:
> On We
Hi Andrew,
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 10:00 PM, Andrew Lutomirski wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said:
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:01:37AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 12:51 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
>> Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said:
>>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:01:37AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
>>> > Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said:
>>> > > Do we even use the DHCP NTP
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said:
>> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:01:37AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
>> > Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said:
>> > > Do we even use the DHCP NTP server assignment?
>> >
>> > I believe it is used for chrony a
- Original Message -
> If we want to have this working correctly with chronyd/ntpd, at this point
> it seems the only reasonable option is to replace systemd-timedated.
> timedatex is a new implementation of the timedate interface that was
> recently added to Fedora. It reads the list of NT
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 18:26 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Tue, 25.11.14 11:08, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanz...@gnome.org) wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 17:15 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > > I am sorry, but timedated is really not the place to control NTP
> > > *server* software.
Once upon a time, Tomasz Torcz said:
> On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:01:37AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> > Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said:
> > > Do we even use the DHCP NTP server assignment?
> >
> > I believe it is used for chrony and ntpd, don't know about sysmted's new
> > implementation.
On Wed, Nov 26, 2014 at 08:01:37AM -0600, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said:
> > Do we even use the DHCP NTP server assignment?
>
> I believe it is used for chrony and ntpd, don't know about sysmted's new
> implementation.
systemd-timesyncd uses DHCP-provided NTP serve
Once upon a time, Florian Weimer said:
> Do we even use the DHCP NTP server assignment?
I believe it is used for chrony and ntpd, don't know about sysmted's new
implementation.
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On 11/26/2014 10:09 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
We still do. Unless the number of bad servers added from DHCP is large
enough to disrupt the NTP source selection algorithm or the pool
servers are not reachable (NTP traffic blocked), it shouldn't be a big
problem. Of course, without authentication
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 02:35:12PM -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > Some networks have bad NTP service in the sense that they hand out incorrect
> > time (not just off by a few seconds, but days or months, enough to skew
> > certificate valid
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 10:51 AM, Florian Weimer wrote:
> Some networks have bad NTP service in the sense that they hand out incorrect
> time (not just off by a few seconds, but days or months, enough to skew
> certificate validity).
I'm not sure what we're supposed to do about such sabotage on
On 11/25/2014 06:25 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
On Tue, 25.11.14 18:04, Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) wrote:
On 11/25/2014 05:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Really? if you want a UI that controls whether NTP server software is
running, why not call into the EnableUnitFiles() APIs dir
On Tue, 25.11.14 11:08, Michael Catanzaro (mcatanz...@gnome.org) wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 17:15 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > I am sorry, but timedated is really not the place to control NTP
> > *server* software. It's simply, desktopy stuff, for controlling NTP
> > clients.
>
> Of
On Tue, 25.11.14 18:04, Florian Weimer (fwei...@redhat.com) wrote:
> On 11/25/2014 05:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> >Really? if you want a UI that controls whether NTP server software is
> >running, why not call into the EnableUnitFiles() APIs directly?
>
> Both chronyd and ntpd are often us
On Tue, 2014-11-25 at 17:15 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> I am sorry, but timedated is really not the place to control NTP
> *server* software. It's simply, desktopy stuff, for controlling NTP
> clients.
Of course, but the desktopy NTP client in Fedora Workstation is chrony,
as you know full
On 11/25/2014 05:15 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
Really? if you want a UI that controls whether NTP server software is
running, why not call into the EnableUnitFiles() APIs directly?
Both chronyd and ntpd are often used as clients. Miroslav wasn't
talking about server usage scenarios, but re
On Tue, 25.11.14 16:23, Miroslav Lichvar (mlich...@redhat.com) wrote:
> This is about bug #1136905 [1], discussed previously on the systemd list
> [2] and also on our desktop list [3].
>
> The issue is that systemd-timedated now supports only systemd-timesyncd
> for NTP and ignores other NTP serv
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