Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-03-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Mar 09, 2016 at 07:53:44AM +0100, Remi Collet wrote: > I may understand the need. > But what about "server" ? > If you install a webapp which use gettext, the locale will be set > according to the conneected user (ex Horde) > Does that mean that such webapp should requires "qlibc-all-langpa

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-03-08 Thread Remi Collet
Le 26/02/2016 10:47, Carlos O'Donell a écrit : > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > language packs. We have over 180 supported languages > in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks > for transparent install and support via dnf. I may understand the need. But what abou

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-03-07 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 03/05/2016 07:13 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > On Sunday, 28 February 2016 at 23:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> >>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: >>> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: Yeah, I think the best approach wou

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-03-05 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Sunday, 28 February 2016 at 23:31, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: > > > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> Yeah, I think the best approach would be to have all the langpacks offer a > >> virtual Provides:

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-03-01 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 04:47 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > Bug 1238406 - Glibc locale subpackaging > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1238406 > > Changes/Glibc locale subpackaging > https://fedoraproject.org//wiki/Changes/Glibc_locale_subpackaging With glibc-2.23.90-3.fc25 and glibc-2.23.1-5.fc2

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Dan Callaghan
Excerpts from Carlos O'Donell's message of 2016-02-29 11:04 -05:00: > On 02/29/2016 06:32 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > > Mock (or rpmbuild?) sets LANG to en_US.UTF-8 instead of C in order > > to > > have UTF-8 locale when building packages because it was decided that > > UTF-8 is the default (build) en

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Bruno Wolff III
Upgrading to this version of glibc also breaks postgres if you have a database that uses something other than the C locale. Installing appropriate language packs and restarting fix the issue. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http://lists.fedoraproject.org/admin/lists/devel@lis

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 11:28 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 19:18 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > > > > On 02/29/2016 05:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > IIRC it would simply terminate claiming the remote host had dropped the > > > connection. There wasn'

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 19:18 +0100, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 02/29/2016 05:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > > IIRC it would simply terminate claiming the remote host had dropped the > > connection. There wasn't any useful information even with -. I just > > kinda guessed it must have so

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/29/2016 01:18 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 02/29/2016 05:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> IIRC it would simply terminate claiming the remote host had dropped the >> connection. There wasn't any useful information even with -. I just >> kinda guessed it must have something to do with

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Florian Weimer
On 02/29/2016 05:18 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > IIRC it would simply terminate claiming the remote host had dropped the > connection. There wasn't any useful information even with -. I just > kinda guessed it must have something to do with the langpacks, > installed glibc-langpack-en, and it

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2016-02-29 at 11:10 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 02/27/2016 08:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 04:47 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > > > > > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > > > language packs. We have over 180 supported languages >

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 29.2.2016 v 17:12 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): > On 02/29/2016 04:22 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): >>> On 02/26/2016 05:02 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: You also forget to mention what Rawhide users are supposed to do. I assume that I should

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/29/2016 04:22 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): >> On 02/26/2016 05:02 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >>> You also forget to mention what Rawhide users are supposed to do. >>> >>> I assume that I should do: >>> >>> # dnf install langpacks-cs >>> >>> to have

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/29/2016 10:46 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 01:42:57PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 08:57:27PM +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: >>> And also I was not able to start gnome-terminal and some other apps. I had >>> to install glibc-langpack-en.

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/27/2016 08:33 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 04:47 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by >> language packs. We have over 180 supported languages >> in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks >> for transparent install

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/27/2016 03:44 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 04:47 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by >> language packs. We have over 180 supported languages >> in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks >> for transparent install

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/29/2016 06:32 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: > On 2016-02-27, Ruben Kerkhof wrote: >> I'm now seeing this in mock / koji builds: >> >> perl: warning: Setting locale failed. >> perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: >> LANGUAGE = (unset), >> LC_ALL = (unset), >> LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" >>

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-02-27 at 09:03 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 02/26/2016 10:39 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > > > On 02/26/2016 08:39 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > > > > > > > Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 01:42:57PM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 08:57:27PM +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > > And also I was not able to start gnome-terminal and some other apps. I had > > to install glibc-langpack-en. > > libvirtd also fails to start up: > > https://

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 08:57:27PM +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > And also I was not able to start gnome-terminal and some other apps. I had > to install glibc-langpack-en. libvirtd also fails to start up: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1312688 I'm investigating it now. Rich. --

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2016-02-27, Ruben Kerkhof wrote: > I'm now seeing this in mock / koji builds: > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LANGUAGE = (unset), > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" > are supported and installed on your system. > p

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-29 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): > On 02/26/2016 05:02 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> You also forget to mention what Rawhide users are supposed to do. >> >> I assume that I should do: >> >> # dnf install langpacks-cs >> >> to have only czech language available and English should be ava

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:08 PM, Lars Seipel wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> Yeah, I think the best approach would be to have all the langpacks offer a >> virtual Provides: glibc-langpack and have the main package Requires: >> glibc-langpack and S

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-28 Thread Lars Seipel
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Yeah, I think the best approach would be to have all the langpacks offer a > virtual Provides: glibc-langpack and have the main package Requires: > glibc-langpack and Suggests: glibc-all-langpacks. This would force the installati

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 04:47 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > language packs. We have over 180 supported languages > in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks > for transparent install and support via dnf. This > greatly reduces the size

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2016-02-27 at 20:57 +, Igor Gnatenko wrote: > And also I was not able to start gnome-terminal and some other apps. I had > to install glibc-langpack-en. Different case. The issue of how to handle upgrade of existing installs is already being discussed upthread. I was pointing out a dif

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Igor Gnatenko
And also I was not able to start gnome-terminal and some other apps. I had to install glibc-langpack-en. On Sat, Feb 27, 2016, 9:44 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 04:47 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > > language packs. We

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 04:47 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > language packs. We have over 180 supported languages > in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks > for transparent install and support via dnf. This > greatly reduces the size

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Ruben Kerkhof
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > language packs. We have over 180 supported languages > in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks > for transparent install and support via dnf. This > greatly reduces the size

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 10:38 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 10:06 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> Correct, 'glibc-all-langpacks' will solve the problem immediately. > > OK, I've added this to comps, to take care of new installs. If anyone > implements support for language pack instal

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-27 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 10:39 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> On 02/26/2016 08:39 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: >>> Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): No languages are available by default, we did this because other

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi, On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 February 2016 at 13:25, Parag Nemade wrote: >> Please have a look at New Langpacks Change[1] information. > > Thanks for the information -- this looks a lot better than the current > logic and so a huge thanks for driving this. O

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 08:56:27AM -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > On 02/26/2016 08:39 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > > Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): > >> No languages are available by default, we did this because otherwise > >> you keep carrying forward locales that you can't rem

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 10:06 -0500, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > Correct, 'glibc-all-langpacks' will solve the problem immediately. OK, I've added this to comps, to take care of new installs. If anyone implements support for language pack installation in both gnome- initial-setup and gnome-control-cent

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On 26 February 2016 at 13:25, Parag Nemade wrote: > Please have a look at New Langpacks Change[1] information. Thanks for the information -- this looks a lot better than the current logic and so a huge thanks for driving this. One more question: Would you be against me adding (translated) metainf

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 09:44 AM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 12:25 +, Richard Hughes wrote: >> What happens if the user isn't using DNF? For the workstation we have >> to support users using just the graphical tools, and we can't rely on >> command line tools for this kind of thing.

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2016-02-26 at 12:25 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > What happens if the user isn't using DNF? For the workstation we have > to support users using just the graphical tools, and we can't rely on > command line tools for this kind of thing. I'm happy to add support > for installing lang packs

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 07:33 AM, Parag Nemade wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> On 02/26/2016 04:47 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >>> The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by >>> language packs. We have over 180 supported languages >>> in glibc, and those

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On 02/26/2016 08:39 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote: > Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): >> No languages are available by default, we did this because otherwise >> you keep carrying forward locales that you can't remove. > > For this reasons we have weak dependencies. I guess that: > Rec

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 26.2.2016 v 11:20 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): > No languages are available by default, we did this because otherwise > you keep carrying forward locales that you can't remove. For this reasons we have weak dependencies. I guess that: Recommends: glibc-all-langpacks can do the work (install or

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi Richard, On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 26 February 2016 at 09:47, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> We have over 180 supported languages >> in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks >> for transparent install and support via dnf. > > What happens if the user isn

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Parag Nemade
Hi, On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > On 02/26/2016 04:47 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: >> The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by >> language packs. We have over 180 supported languages >> in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks >> for transparent inst

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Peter Robinson
> What happens if the user isn't using DNF? For the workstation we have > to support users using just the graphical tools, and we can't rely on > command line tools for this kind of thing. I'm happy to add support > for installing lang packs into gnome-software but need to know how the > langpack p

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Richard Hughes
On 26 February 2016 at 09:47, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > We have over 180 supported languages > in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks > for transparent install and support via dnf. What happens if the user isn't using DNF? For the workstation we have to support users using just the gra

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 04:47 AM, Carlos O'Donell wrote: > The glibc in Fedora rawhide and F24 is now split by > language packs. We have over 180 supported languages > in glibc, and those have been split into langpacks > for transparent install and support via dnf. This > greatly reduces the size of a glibc

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Carlos O'Donell
On 02/26/2016 05:02 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > You also forget to mention what Rawhide users are supposed to do. > > I assume that I should do: > > # dnf install langpacks-cs > > to have only czech language available and English should be available by > default, right? No languages are available

Re: glibc in Fedora rawhide now split by langpacks.

2016-02-26 Thread Vít Ondruch
You also forget to mention what Rawhide users are supposed to do. I assume that I should do: # dnf install langpacks-cs to have only czech language available and English should be available by default, right? Vít Dne 26.2.2016 v 10:47 Carlos O'Donell napsal(a): > The glibc in Fedora rawhide