On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:56:03AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > >
> > > > It
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 9:56 AM Colin Walters wrote:
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> What I was pointing at is the Fedora CoreOS *LIVE* ISO, which is definitely
> fully read only (or phased more usefully), does not support persistence
> at all because physical ISOs don't - same as any other "Live" system
> from Anaconda to al
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, at 9:32 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > > root f
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 01:32:12PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >
> > > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > >
Hi,
On 03/07/2020 14:18, Colin Walters wrote:
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
root file system,
Eh, just mount a tmpfs for /var, and an overlayfs for /etc (backed by a tmpfs).
That's what
On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 09:18:42AM -0400, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > root file system,
>
> Eh, just mount a tmpfs for /var, and an overlayfs for /etc (bac
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 11:53 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system,
Eh, just mount a tmpfs for /var, and an overlayfs for /etc (backed by a tmpfs).
That's what we do for Fedora CoreOS based live images, se
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020, at 12:05 PM, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> I presume you're referring to regular Fedora here, but this description
> feels like it is approx asking for what Fedora Silverblue has delivered,
> only with the writable area for apps being just a ram disk with no
> persistence.
No
On 03.07.2020 13:42, Neal Gompa wrote:
> Ubuntu's MOTD requires network connectivity to function, I think ours
> would not. That would eliminate the network resource contention issues
> you were seeing.
The good MOTD is an empty MOTD.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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On 03.07.2020 08:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a
> lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we
> should in general.
Ubuntu MOTD contains ads. Most of Ubuntu users completely disable it
right after the ins
On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 6:50 AM Roberto Ragusa wrote:
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> On 2020-07-03 08:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> > Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a
> > lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we
> > should in general.
>
> Do not follow Ubunt
On 2020-07-03 08:07, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
Ubuntu's MOTD are well known and people seem to like them a
lot. Fedora hasn't been making that much use of them. But I think we
should in general.
Do not follow Ubuntu on this too much.
I've had a case of a machine with many short-lived
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:17:58PM -0500, Brandon Nielsen wrote:
> On 7/2/20 3:10 PM, Christopher Engelhard wrote:
> >On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> >>It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> >>root file system, all the way to the graphical envi
On 7/2/20 3:10 PM, Christopher Engelhard wrote:
On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
root file system, all the way to the graphical environment. Obviously,
such a machine will not be fully functional, but for us
On 02.07.20 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system, all the way to the graphical environment. Obviously,
> such a machine will not be fully functional, but for users, debugging a
> disk problem when they hav
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 06:27:44PM +0200, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote:
> On 02.07.2020 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> > root file system, all the way to the graphical environment.
>
> Already implemented - Silv
On 02.07.2020 17:53, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system, all the way to the graphical environment.
Already implemented - Silverblue.
--
Sincerely,
Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org)
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On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 05:05:09PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:53:26PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> > default, but makes sense independently too...
> >
> > It would be
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 12:05 PM Daniel P. Berrangé wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:53:26PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> > default, but makes sense independently too...
> >
> > It would be great if
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 03:53:26PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> default, but makes sense independently too...
>
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file system, all th
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 11:54 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek <
zbys...@in.waw.pl> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is partially an outgrowth of the discussion about btrfs as
> default, but makes sense independently too...
>
> It would be great if we could fairly reliably boot with a read-only
> root file syst
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