Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-02-15 Thread Achilleas Pipinellis
On 23/01/2014 02:02 πμ, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:41:52 +0400 > Peter Lemenkov wrote: > >> 2014/1/23 Kevin Fenzi : >> >>> Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get >>> it updated. >> >> Don't know what others think, but I personally prefer GitHub pull >>

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote: > I'm confused, are you talking about: https://fedorahosted.org/pkgdb2/ ? If this is now on Fedora Hosted, that's a good thing. :-) Thank you for that! So you don't have to feel targeted (anymore), you already did the right thing. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailin

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Pierre-Yves Chibon
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 01:23:13AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Peter Lemenkov wrote: > > IMHO you're absolutely wrong. Fortunately it seems that not so much > > people agree with you since I see a lot of activily on a given > > third-party proprietary web service (compared with a dead silence at >

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Kevin Kofler said: > This shows that people have not learned ANYTHING from the ButtKeeper fiasco. > :-( I think there's a big difference between that and Github. AFAIK Github isn't trying to claim ownership of all data and metadata related to hosted projects, or restrict who c

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 01/24/2014 01:05 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Hi On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: I don't like github being non-free, particularly, but the practical consequences of that are fairly minor. Tickets and history of those tickets can be important You can expor

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 20:05 -0500, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Hi > > > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I don't like github being non-free, particularly, but the > practical > consequences of that are fairly minor. > > > Ticket

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 7:34 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I don't like github being non-free, particularly, but the practical > consequences of that are fairly minor. > Tickets and history of those tickets can be important Rahul -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 23 January 2014 17:28, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote:request process down people's throats). > > > has anyone yet publicly noted the irony of someone building a wildly > > successful proprietary SCM platform on top of a project that was written > > to rescue the kernel from a pro

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 16:34 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > It's hardly a bitbucket > situation. Damnit, I mean bitkeeper. I have those two wires crossed somewhere in my brain. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net ht

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2014-01-24 at 01:23 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Fedora MUST NOT be at the whim of third-party code hosting services, > especially proprietary ones. I don't see how the code being on github means you're at anyone's 'whim'. git is a self-contained, distributed scm. If github turns evil, t

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 01:23:13 +0100 Kevin Kofler wrote: > That's why we need enforcement. There should be a statement from a > competent committee (Board, FESCo, whomever) that effective NOW, > stuff can ONLY be uploaded to production (and staging too, probably) > infrastructure if it is either: >

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > And you can, of course, just mail patches to mailing lists. That's what > git was designed for in the first place, and it appears to work > perfectly well for kernel and anaconda devs... Or simply attach them to an issue in the issue tracker, which works with practically

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Peter Lemenkov wrote: > IMHO you're absolutely wrong. Fortunately it seems that not so much > people agree with you since I see a lot of activily on a given > third-party proprietary web service (compared with a dead silence at > fedorahosted). So actually people already voted, and they voted > aga

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2014-01-22 at 17:02 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:41:52 +0400 > Peter Lemenkov wrote: > > > 2014/1/23 Kevin Fenzi : > > > > > Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get > > > it updated. > > > > Don't know what others think, but I personally

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2014/1/23 Kevin Kofler : > IMHO, projects where Fedora is upstream MUST be on fedorahosted.org, we > should enforce that at least for our infrastructure. IMHO you're absolutely wrong. Fortunately it seems that not so much people agree with you since I see a lot of activily on a given third-party

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-23 Thread Kevin Kofler
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > While github is nice for pulls and patches, it's not so great for > tickets and support needs. > > github issues are very primitive last I looked and wouldn't meet Fedora > Infrastructures needs, IMHO. I also object to the idea of hosting critical parts of our infrastructure

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 00:41:52 +0400 Peter Lemenkov wrote: > 2014/1/23 Kevin Fenzi : > > > Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get > > it updated. > > Don't know what others think, but I personally prefer GitHub pull > requests because they are much simpler and don't in

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 21:29:33 +0100 poma wrote: > Error! > > The following error(s) have occurred with your request: > > username: 'poma' already exists. :) > > Sorry, NoGO. If someone else has that account name, you will need to pick another one. If you don't want to make an account, I

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2014/1/23 Kevin Fenzi : > Can you please file a infrastructure ticket on this and I will get it > updated. Don't know what others think, but I personally prefer GitHub pull requests because they are much simpler and don't involve any interaction with stone age software like trac or various MTAs.

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread poma
On 22.01.2014 21:03, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:52:23 +0100 > poma wrote: > >> >> Fedora 18 End of Life >> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2014-January/003194.html >> >> boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO): >> >> - Fedora-18-i386/x86_64 >> https://git.fedorahosted.org

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO)

2014-01-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 19:52:23 +0100 poma wrote: > > Fedora 18 End of Life > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/announce/2014-January/003194.html > > boot.fedoraproject.org (BFO): > > - Fedora-18-i386/x86_64 > https://git.fedorahosted.org/cgit/fedora-infrastructure.git/plain/bfo/pxelinux.

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Aug 2011 18:26:43 +0200 Rudolf Kastl wrote: > Hello, > > A bit of (hopefully) constructive feedback. It might help with testing > and adoption of fedora if the rcs and alpha releases are made > available in the bfo setup. Actually within the "experimental" folder > there is only a tc1

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2011/8/11 Vratislav Podzimek : > On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 06:46 -0700, John Reiser wrote: >> On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: >> > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> >> >> Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors >> >> close to me. (i

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Thu, 2011-08-11 at 06:46 -0700, John Reiser wrote: > On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > >> Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors > >> close to me. (i think for the install it didnt use a

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread John Reiser
On 08/11/2011 05:26 AM, Vratislav Podzimek wrote: > On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> Last time i tried an install via bfo it didnt really select mirrors >> close to me. (i think for the install it didnt use a mirrorlist but >> instead a hardcoded repo by default) Is this s

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org (bfo)

2011-08-11 Thread Vratislav Podzimek
On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 18:26 +0200, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > Hello, > > A bit of (hopefully) constructive feedback. It might help with testing > and adoption of fedora if the rcs and alpha releases are made > available in the bfo setup. Actually within the "experimental" folder > there is only a tc1 o

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org default repo on installation

2010-11-13 Thread Matt Domsch
On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 02:02:28PM +0100, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > Heyyas. I actually gave boot.fedoraproject.org a testrun and i > realized that by default a repository called "installation" is > selected with a static repo url. instead i have actually figured that > selecting the usual standard fedo

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-10 Thread Frank Murphy
On 10/08/10 03:46, Jon Stanley wrote: > > Simply because one of the people that tends BFO is in sysadmin-main > (the people who receive ad...@fp.o) does not make it a proper support > mechanism. You should use ad...@fp.o for things that are security > sensitive that should remain confidential to a

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-09 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Tue, Aug 10, 2010 at 8:16 AM, Jon Stanley wrote: > . > > The proper place to discuss would be > infrastruct...@lists.fedoraproject.org. BFO is essentially BKO, and > all of the custom stuff is in the infrastructure git repo, which can > be found at git://git.fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastruct

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-09 Thread Jon Stanley
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 12:28 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > send an email to: ad...@fedoraproject.org > Subject: BFO > > The right people will get back to you. Simply because one of the people that tends BFO is in sysadmin-main (the people who receive ad...@fp.o) does not make it a proper support mec

Re: boot.fedoraproject.org

2010-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 05/08/10 17:02, Patrick MONNERAT wrote: > Thanks in advance for any hint. > > Patrick > send an email to: ad...@fedoraproject.org Subject: BFO The right people will get back to you. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded Friend of Fedora -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.o