Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-05 Thread Vít Ondruch
Just FTR: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1278196 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1437884 Vít Dne 04. 06. 19 v 15:28 Florian Weimer napsal(a): > Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, > but not automatically re-installed on each update?

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Florian Weimer wrote: > Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, > but not automatically re-installed on each update? The only workaround for that broken DNF behavior that packagers can in some cases use at this time is to use boolean Supplements instead of a simple

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 5:36 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Florian Weimer wrote: > > Does it sense to reopen bug 1699672, in light of this development? > > It would also make sense to get the upstream issue: > https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv/issues/168 > reopened. > That will not get reopened, be

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Florian Weimer wrote: > Does it sense to reopen bug 1699672, in light of this development? It would also make sense to get the upstream issue: https://github.com/openSUSE/libsolv/issues/168 reopened. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Miroslav Suchý wrote: > I would love to see "dnf mark" command to utilize for this. Something > like: dnf mark soft-remove I.e. remove the package and does not install it > again unless something pull it back using hard "Requires". Why would we require explicit marking? There is no technical reaso

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 6/4/19 11:27 AM, Neal Gompa wrote: The option can also be set in dnf.conf (--setopt= maps to options that you can set there.:) ) This is one option, but it hides them entirely. I would like an option that still shows possible weak dependencies without installing them. Example: --setopt=i

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 19:06 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Adam Williamson: > > > As a side note, if your goal is "to maintain a minimal system > > installation", perhaps what you might want is to be able to configure > > dnf to simply *never* install weak (Recommends) or very weak (Suggests) >

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Adam Williamson: > As a side note, if your goal is "to maintain a minimal system > installation", perhaps what you might want is to be able to configure > dnf to simply *never* install weak (Recommends) or very weak (Suggests) > dependencies. IIRC, this is configurable on SUSE - you can set this

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 12:06 PM Fabio Valentini wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 18:03 Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 15:53 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> > * Neal Gompa: >> > >> > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:30 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >> > > > Is there a form of weak depende

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 18:03 Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 15:53 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > * Neal Gompa: > > > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:30 AM Florian Weimer > wrote: > > > > Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, > > > > but not automatica

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2019-06-04 at 15:53 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Neal Gompa: > > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:30 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > > Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, > > > but not automatically re-installed on each update? > > > > > > If all the optional

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Miroslav Suchý
Dne 04. 06. 19 v 15:48 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > he's aware that it's possible and some work could be > done to support this depending on demand for the feature. I do demand this feature :) I would love to see "dnf mark" command to utilize for this. Something like: dnf mark soft-remove I.e. remove

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Florian Weimer
* Neal Gompa: > On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:30 AM Florian Weimer wrote: >> >> Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, >> but not automatically re-installed on each update? >> >> If all the optional components are back after an update, that means that >> it's quite hard

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Neal Gompa
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 9:30 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, > but not automatically re-installed on each update? > > If all the optional components are back after an update, that means that > it's quite hard to maintain a minimal s

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Miro Hrončok
On 04. 06. 19 15:28, Florian Weimer wrote: Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, but not automatically re-installed on each update? If all the optional components are back after an update, that means that it's quite hard to maintain a minimal system installation.

Re: Weak RPM dependencies which are not automatically re-installed on update

2019-06-04 Thread Fabio Valentini
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019, 15:30 Florian Weimer wrote: > Is there a form of weak dependency which is installed when available, > but not automatically re-installed on each update? > > If all the optional components are back after an update, that means that > it's quite hard to maintain a minimal system