Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-07 Thread Andrei Radchenko
++ to that Upon last iteration we decided that we are not going to deprecate current functionality `if fedora == 43; generate unversioned nodejs from this srpm', but rather move it to unversioned nodejs srpm: 'if fedora == 43; *pull* nodejs24 and its -bin packages'. That, in my opinion, is a bit

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-07 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 05. 08. 25 v 19:01 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` and other tools that are bundled with the interpreter. They might

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-06 Thread Jan Stanek
As a side note, the metapackage proposal [1], which is the main topic of this discussion, was already approved by FESCo; so I'm sort of surprised how much feedback it is receiving now as opposed to the original change proposal (which received almost none). I'm still open to suggestions, making this

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-06 Thread Jan Stanek
On Wed, Aug 6, 2025 at 4:19 AM Carl George wrote: > After reading those changes, something jumps out at me. The term > "rolling stream" is used, which sounds an awful lot like the RHEL > concept of a rolling appstream. That makes more sense for RHEL with > its long lifecycle, but it feels out of

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-06 Thread Jan Stanek
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > That would be in violation of our stable updates policy and would need > a special FESCo exemption. It would require a compelling argument > (like: "upstream changed its mind on how long it would be supported"). Ack and good to know. In th

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-05 Thread Carl George
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:11 PM Carl George wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephe

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 7:11 PM Carl George wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher > > > wrote: > > > > Also be aware that you'll need to figure ou

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-05 Thread Carl George
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 12:01 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher > > wrote: > > > Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` > > > and other tools that are bundled wit

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 11:10 AM Jan Stanek wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > > Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` > > and other tools that are bundled with the interpreter. They might need > > their own subpackages. > > Yeah, we

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-05 Thread Jan Stanek
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 4:37 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote: > Also be aware that you'll need to figure out what to do about `npm` > and other tools that are bundled with the interpreter. They might need > their own subpackages. Yeah, we are aware, but here it will depend on what the actual use cases

Re: Unretiring nodejs package

2025-08-05 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, Aug 5, 2025 at 9:41 AM Andrei Radchenko wrote: > > Hello, > > As a part of the big nodejs packaging overhaul [0][1][2], and exhausting all > other 'alternatives' solutions, current idea is having separate streams e.g. > nodejs22 nodejs24 etc, with their corresponding swappable -bin packa