On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 8:03:03 AM MST David Tardon wrote:
> Hello,
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> On Mon, 2020-08-31 at 23:46 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > On Monday, August 31, 2020 11:24:57 PM MST David Tardon wrote:
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> > > On Mon, 2020-08-31 at 00:08 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > >
> >
Hello,
On Mon, 2020-08-31 at 23:46 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Monday, August 31, 2020 11:24:57 PM MST David Tardon wrote:
> > On Mon, 2020-08-31 at 00:08 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > > On Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:36:33 PM MST Colin Walters wrote:
> > >
> > > > https://blo
On Monday, August 31, 2020 11:24:57 PM MST David Tardon wrote:
> On Mon, 2020-08-31 at 00:08 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > On Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:36:33 PM MST Colin Walters wrote:
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> > > https://blog.verbum.org/2020/08/22/immutable-%E2%86%92-reprovisionable-a
> > > nti-> hyster
On Mon, 2020-08-31 at 00:08 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:36:33 PM MST Colin Walters wrote:
> > https://blog.verbum.org/2020/08/22/immutable-%E2%86%92-reprovisionable-anti->
> > hysteresis/
> > touches on some of the benefits of "fragmented" configs.
>
> Perhaps
On Saturday, August 29, 2020 3:36:33 PM MST Colin Walters wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Igor Raits wrote:
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> > And only way to get to the distribution defaults is to download RPM
> > with matching version, unpack it and get its /etc/foo.conf.
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>
> On ostree-based systems, the
On Sat, Aug 29, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Igor Raits wrote:
> And only way to get to the distribution defaults is to download RPM
> with matching version, unpack it and get its /etc/foo.conf.
On ostree-based systems, the defaults for /etc are in /usr/etc, so
you always have them - it needs this to do th
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On Sat, 2020-08-29 at 11:02 -0700, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
> On Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:00:17 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 8/28/20 9:40 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > > Please don't invent a new logic, especially the one that systemd
On Saturday, August 29, 2020 1:00:17 AM MST Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 8/28/20 9:40 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
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> > Please don't invent a new logic, especially the one that systemd does.
> > This makes it very difficult to figure out where in the world the
> > configuration file for a given progra
On 8/28/20 9:40 PM, John M. Harris Jr wrote:
Please don't invent a new logic, especially the one that systemd does. This
makes it very difficult to figure out where in the world the configuration
file for a given program is. With systemd, sure, it's not so bad, as the
System defaults go in /usr
On Tuesday, August 4, 2020 9:32:35 AM MST Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 05:11:49PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
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> > I'm considering to split the default configuration file in the chrony
> > package to make it easier for vendors, products, and configuration
> > to
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 06:26:37PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 07:05:45PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > That's possible (the paths could be hardcoded in the systemd unit
> > file), but is it a good idea to force the users to use the new system?
> > If so
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 07:05:45PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 04:32:35PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > It's nice to not require any files in /etc (so for example the admin
> > can do 'rm -rf /etc/*' to restore vendor defaults). So instead of
> > using /
On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 1:28 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
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> On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 05:11:49PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > I'm considering to split the default configuration file in the chrony
> > package to make it easier for vendors, products, and configuration
> > tools to over
Once upon a time, Miroslav Lichvar said:
> The trouble is that a fragment having a different name cannot disable
> servers specified in a different fragment. If anaconda wanted to
> override the default servers, it would need to know the name of the
> fragment.
So, that brings up something I've b
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 04:32:35PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> It's nice to not require any files in /etc (so for example the admin
> can do 'rm -rf /etc/*' to restore vendor defaults). So instead of
> using /etc/chrony.conf to load other files, please consider just
> building this
On Tue, Aug 04, 2020 at 05:11:49PM +0200, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> I'm considering to split the default configuration file in the chrony
> package to make it easier for vendors, products, and configuration
> tools to override some specific settings (like the default NTP
> servers) by dropping a fi
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