Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-22 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 7:24 AM, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 2011-07-20 9:18, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewis  wrote: >>> Out of curiosity, how does this affect existing systems which have human >>> UIDs of 500, 501, etc..? >>> >>> Do they suddenly become

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-07-20 9:18, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewis wrote: >> Out of curiosity, how does this affect existing systems which have human >> UIDs of 500, 501, etc..? >> >> Do they suddenly become system UIDs or is login.defs left alone then >> (and consequently

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread John Reiser
On 07/21/2011 03:42 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: > Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >> No, applications expect system accounts and user accounts to have >> non-overlapping ID intervals. So this would be just a more broken >> version of keeping the limit at 500. > > +1. And keeping consistency with oth

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Petrus de Calguarium
Miloslav Trmač wrote: > No, applications expect system accounts and user accounts to have > non-overlapping ID intervals. So this would be just a more broken > version of keeping the limit at 500. +1. And keeping consistency with other distros. Definitely the right move, since UID=1000 is the d

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:08 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:02 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:59 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > >

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 17:02 -0400, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:59 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: > > > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill > > > > wrot

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Simo Sorce
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 13:59 -0400, seth vidal wrote: > On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill > > > wrote: > > > > Is it really necessary to change this in %pre ... c

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill >> wrote: >> >  Is it really necessary to change this in %pre ... can't you just copy >> > your old login.defs file over the installed

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread seth vidal
On Thu, 2011-07-21 at 12:57 -0400, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill > > wrote: > > > Is it really necessary to change this in %pre ... can't you just copy > > > your old login.defs file over the inst

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-21 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 22:59 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill > wrote: > > Is it really necessary to change this in %pre ... can't you just copy > > your old login.defs file over the installed one during kickstart %post > > (or even do it by hand, post

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 10:55 PM, James Antill wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 18:28 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> > I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. >> > This lets me do a full install, blow away old

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread James Antill
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 18:28 +0200, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > > I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. > > This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and > > not lose any user data. > >

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 02:06 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 13:52 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 07/20/2011 01:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: >>> On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Whee

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 13:52 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 07/20/2011 01:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >> On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > I normally build systems

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 01:19 PM, Simo Sorce wrote: > On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. This lets m

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 16:15:34 +, Benjamin Lewis wrote: > Out of curiosity, how does this affect existing systems which have human > UIDs of 500, 501, etc..? > > Do they suddenly become system UIDs or is login.defs left alone then > (and consequently no change happens)? When the change w

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Simo Sorce
On Wed, 2011-07-20 at 12:29 -0400, Ric Wheeler wrote: > On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > >> I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. > >> This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora syst

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 12:28 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: >> I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. >> This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and >> not lose any user data. >> >> Since that

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Ric Wheeler wrote: > I normally build systems with (at least!) a separate /boot, / and /home. > This lets me do a full install, blow away old fedora system partitions and > not lose any user data. > > Since that puts down a pristine F16 image, does that mean we nee

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Ric Wheeler
On 07/20/2011 12:18 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewis wrote: >> On 07/20/2011 04:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. >>> >>> Unfortunately some packages need to know the boundar

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Benjamin Lewis wrote: > On 07/20/2011 04:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: >> Hello all, >> Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. >> >> Unfortunately some packages need to know the boundary, and usually >> hard-code it.  I have checked the m

Re: Starting user UIDs at 1000 - please check your packages

2011-07-20 Thread Benjamin Lewis
On 07/20/2011 04:07 PM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > Hello all, > Fedora 16 will start user UIDs and GIDs at 1000 instead of 500[1]. > > Unfortunately some packages need to know the boundary, and usually > hard-code it. I have checked the most common packages[2], but I can't > check all 10 thousand pa