Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-28 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 21:17 -0700, Garrett Holmstrom wrote: > On 2011-06-26 12:33, Christoph Wickert wrote: > > And I have no idea what part of our update policy should be violated by > > this update. Please somebody enlighten me. > > This part: > * Avoid changing the user experience if at all p

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-27 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 2011-06-26 12:33, Christoph Wickert wrote: > And I have no idea what part of our update policy should be violated by > this update. Please somebody enlighten me. This part: * Avoid changing the user experience if at all possible. Specifically, the update breaks a number of user-installed ext

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-27 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2011-06-27 at 10:22 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote: > I apologize for the long rant. Well...trying to think of a diplomatic way to put it, but I'd say the long rant is fine, but we've had the same discussion at least five times over the last couple of years and your post didn't seem to bring

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-27 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 06/27/2011 07:52 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote > Debates like this expose a weakness in packaging philosophy. The > current philosophy seems to be all packages are equal. It really isn't http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_path_package http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Updates_Policy Rahul -- de

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-27 Thread Mark Bidewell
> > For me the most important benefit is OS independent software, especially > web browser. > -- > devel mailing list > devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > Debates like this expose a weakness in packaging philosophy. The current philosophy seem

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Lucas
> You are of course free to do this if you choose, but Fedora is a > package managed system. Doing this you lose a number of benefits of a > package management system. For me the most important benefit is OS independent software, especially web browser. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedor

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 00:28:50 +0400 Lucas wrote: > To All > > I do not understand what are talking about. > > Firefox and Thunderbird now does not require any kind of linux > distribution attention. > > Download bz2 archive from their site, unpack it to any directory (for > example - /usr/local

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Lucas
To All I do not understand what are talking about. Firefox and Thunderbird now does not require any kind of linux distribution attention. Download bz2 archive from their site, unpack it to any directory (for example - /usr/local/share) and start it. It will use USER settings in home director

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 13:25 -0300 schrieb Evandro Giovanini: > On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Christoph Wickert > wrote: > > Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 17:08 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > >> Felix Miata wrote: > >> > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.1, which incorporates an upstream >

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Evandro Giovanini
On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 17:08 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: >> Felix Miata wrote: >> > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.1, which incorporates an upstream >> > versioning policy change. >> >> The funny thing is that Firefox is going e

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Christoph Wickert
Am Sonntag, den 26.06.2011, 17:08 +0200 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Felix Miata wrote: > > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.1, which incorporates an upstream > > versioning policy change. > > The funny thing is that Firefox is going exactly the opposite way of us with > their update policies, T

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, 26 Jun 2011 17:08:31 +0200 Kevin Kofler wrote: > Felix Miata wrote: > > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.1, which incorporates an > > upstream versioning policy change. > > The funny thing is that Firefox is going exactly the opposite way of > us with their update policies, and that a

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-26 Thread Kevin Kofler
Felix Miata wrote: > FF5 is the security update to FF4.0.1, which incorporates an upstream > versioning policy change. The funny thing is that Firefox is going exactly the opposite way of us with their update policies, and that as a result, that Firefox security update is not compliant with our

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-25 Thread Felix Miata
On 2011/06/25 15:32 (GMT+0200) Jochen Schmitt composed: > I have a spcial question about secirity update of Firefox 4 on F-15. > On > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Diskussionen-um-Versionspolitik-von-Firefox-1268009.html > you could read, that upstream doensn't release the security updat

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-25 Thread Peter Robinson
On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Hallo, > > I have a spcial question about secirity update of Firefox 4 on F-15. > > On > > http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Diskussionen-um-Versionspolitik-von-Firefox-1268009.html > you could read, that upstream doensn't release the s

Re: Security updates for Firefox 4 in F-15

2011-06-25 Thread Johannes Lips
Hi, fedora already updated to firefox 5 in fedora 15. btw only german speaking persons could read your reference ;-) Johannes On Sat, Jun 25, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Jochen Schmitt wrote: > Hallo, > > I have a spcial question about secirity update of Firefox 4 on F-15. > > On > > http://www.heise.de/