On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 09:52:59PM +, Gary Buhrmaster wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 9:36 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
> > So, use "chrony" instead?
>
> For some use cases, there is also the option of
> systemd-timesyncd as a ntp client.
timesyncd is a very minimal NTP client. It can be r
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 11:58:53PM -0600, Alex Thomas wrote:
> Question : I know that FreeIPA at one point did not work well with
> chrony and required the installation of ntp. This might cause an
> issue.
That's not a problem anymore. Support for chrony was added in 4.7.0,
released in 2018, so
Question : I know that FreeIPA at one point did not work well with
chrony and required the installation of ntp. This might cause an
issue.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 3:54 PM Gary Buhrmaster
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 9:36 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
>
> > So, use "chrony" instead?
>
> For som
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 9:36 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
> So, use "chrony" instead?
For some use cases, there is also the option of
systemd-timesyncd as a ntp client.
> Is the functionality sufficient
As always, given the different use cases, the answer
is maybe.
Here is a quick comparison: h
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 9:33 AM Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>
> I think we should consider retiring the ntp package. The upstream
> project is not in a good shape and it doesn't seem to be improving.
> Contributors left long time ago. The development is slow and happens
> behind closed doors. They stil
I don't have objections to retiring the ntp tool, as long as there's something
to take its place, and as long as a command argument compatible ntpdate tool
still exists. I tend to use ntpdate much more often than I enable the ntp
service. Right now ntpdate runs on boot on my PinePhone's Fedora 3
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 06:09:18PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote:
> Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > The main problem is that they don't fix all known security issues. In
> > the CVE list I see about 10 issues that were not fixed at all or only
> > partially, some exploitable in default configuration.
>
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 12:37 PM PGNet Dev wrote:
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> On 11/2/20 9:22 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > Work migrated to Chrony a year or so ago. The only thing I use from
> > ntp is the "ntpdate" tool. Everything else is chrony now. :)
>
> out of curiosity, what's lacking for your use case?
>
> ntpdate, h
On 11/2/20 9:22 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
Work migrated to Chrony a year or so ago. The only thing I use from
ntp is the "ntpdate" tool. Everything else is chrony now. :)
out of curiosity, what's lacking for your use case?
ntpdate, here, was primarily for "set it now" interventions.
that, at leas
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 12:10 PM Björn Persson wrote:
>
> Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > The main problem is that they don't fix all known security issues. In
> > the CVE list I see about 10 issues that were not fixed at all or only
> > partially, some exploitable in default configuration.
>
> That so
Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> The main problem is that they don't fix all known security issues. In
> the CVE list I see about 10 issues that were not fixed at all or only
> partially, some exploitable in default configuration.
That sounds bad. Where is that list? In Red Hat Bugzilla I see only two.
On 11/2/20 10:37 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 10:14:05AM -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote:
I use ntp heavily for multiple stratum 1 timeservers here. If you drop ntp, I
will have to build my own from source. Not a big problem, but I'd personally
like to see ntp stay availa
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 04:09:33PM +0100, Reindl Harald (privat) wrote:
> Am 02.11.20 um 15:33 schrieb Miroslav Lichvar:
> > In Fedora, there seems to be only one package that has a dependency on
> > ntp: nagios-plugins-ntp-perl. It's a monitoring plugin using the
> > problematic mode-6 protocol. I
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 10:14:05AM -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote:
> I use ntp heavily for multiple stratum 1 timeservers here. If you drop ntp,
> I will have to build my own from source. Not a big problem, but I'd
> personally like to see ntp stay available in Fedora.
I have few stratum-1 serve
On 11/2/20 10:23 AM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 10:14:05AM -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote:
On 11/2/20 9:33 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
I'm not sure how many users of ntp are there. As a replacement, we
could package ntpsec. It is an actively maintained fork of ntp which
has remov
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 10:14:05AM -0500, Steven A. Falco wrote:
> On 11/2/20 9:33 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
> > I'm not sure how many users of ntp are there. As a replacement, we
> > could package ntpsec. It is an actively maintained fork of ntp which
> > has removed a lot of code and fixed or a
On 11/2/20 9:33 AM, Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
I think we should consider retiring the ntp package. The upstream
project is not in a good shape and it doesn't seem to be improving.
Contributors left long time ago. The development is slow and happens
behind closed doors. They still use bitkeeper.
Th
On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 9:33 AM Miroslav Lichvar wrote:
>
> I think we should consider retiring the ntp package. The upstream
> project is not in a good shape and it doesn't seem to be improving.
> Contributors left long time ago. The development is slow and happens
> behind closed doors. They stil
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