On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 05:45:12PM +0100, Kevin Kofler via devel wrote:
> Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> > Heh, that's a cool idea. But that's not how standards work.
> > You cannot just insert things at random points in low-level config
> > files or protols. How do you think this would work?
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Heh, that's a cool idea. But that's not how standards work.
> You cannot just insert things at random points in low-level config
> files or protols. How do you think this would work?
> You insert "$tuned_params", I insert "{tuned_params}", and GNU people
> inser
On Wed, Nov 06, 2024 at 01:50:28PM +0100, Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:59 PM Kilian Hanich via devel
> wrote:
> >
> > Am 06.11.24 um 11:32 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> > >> That's not how standards work. It's behaviour undefined by the
> > >> standard, i.e. undefi
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 07:32:58PM +0100, Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> > > > > > > > On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Oof ... the fact that tuned mangles bootloader parameters
> > > > > > > > > wasn't
> > > > > > > > > mentioned at all in the Change Proposal to enable it
Am 06.11.24 um 11:32 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
That's not how standards work. It's behaviour undefined by the
standard, i.e. undefined behaviour. If it isn't forbidden, or strictly
defined, it's still standard compliant.
I think we'll have to agree to disagree. If it's "undefined beha
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 11:32 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> > That's not how standards work. It's behaviour undefined by the
> > standard, i.e. undefined behaviour. If it isn't forbidden, or strictly
> > defined, it's still standard compliant.
>
> I think we'll have to agree to disagree.
On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 12:59 PM Kilian Hanich via devel
wrote:
>
> Am 06.11.24 um 11:32 schrieb Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek:
> >> That's not how standards work. It's behaviour undefined by the
> >> standard, i.e. undefined behaviour. If it isn't forbidden, or strictly
> >> defined, it's still stan
> > > > > > > On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > > > > > > Oof ... the fact that tuned mangles bootloader parameters wasn't
> > > > > > > > mentioned at all in the Change Proposal to enable it by
> > > > > > > > default. To me
> > > > > > > > that would have been a no-go. (I already
On Tue, Nov 05, 2024 at 03:56:57PM +0100, Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 12:04 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:06:34PM +0100, Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:31 PM Fabio Valentini
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > O
On Tue, Nov 5, 2024 at 12:04 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:06:34PM +0100, Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:31 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jaroslav Škarvada
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, N
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 05:06:34PM +0100, Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:31 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jaroslav Škarvada
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 3:02 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:31 PM Fabio Valentini wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 3:02 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
> > >
> > > On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > > Oof ... the fact that tuned mangles bootloader parameters was
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 4:20 PM Jaroslav Škarvada wrote:
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 3:02 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
> >
> > On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > > Oof ... the fact that tuned mangles bootloader parameters wasn't
> > > mentioned at all in the Change Proposal to enable it by def
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 3:02 PM Ian Pilcher wrote:
>
> On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
> > Oof ... the fact that tuned mangles bootloader parameters wasn't
> > mentioned at all in the Change Proposal to enable it by default. To me
> > that would have been a no-go. (I already voted -1 for
On 11/4/24 7:42 AM, Fabio Valentini wrote:
Oof ... the fact that tuned mangles bootloader parameters wasn't
mentioned at all in the Change Proposal to enable it by default. To me
that would have been a no-go. (I already voted -1 for this change for
other reasons, but these bootloader shenanigans
On Sat, Nov 2, 2024 at 1:05 PM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> I was installing a new kernel today and I was, to put it mildly,
> slightly surprised when the initrd wouldn't load :(
> It turns out that tuned installs /usr/lib/kernel/install.d/92-tuned.install
> which uses sed to mangle 'ini
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