On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> (Is it actually impossible for the vesa driver to work after
> KMS has kicked in, btw, or is it just something that doesn't work at
> present?)
Right now, it may work or it may not. Typically the vesa bios assumes
it's the only thing th
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 23:02 +0200, François Cami wrote:
> >> Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-detected, or
> >> configured, driver fails after 3 attempts instead of attempting to start
> >> 30 times and failing 30 times. A desktop notification should be
> >> triggered that
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 13:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
>> > display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display
>> >
Kevin Kofler, Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:19:51 +0200:
>> I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a
>> tool for managing multiple screens/heads?
>
> It doesn't do systemwide/permanent settings. (But I think the GNOME tool
> also doesn't implement that at this time.)
Oh sorry, no
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matej Cepl wrote:
>> I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a tool
>> for managing multiple screens/heads?
>
> It doesn't do systemwide/permanent settings. (But I think the GNOME tool
> also doesn't implement that at
Matej Cepl wrote:
> I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a tool
> for managing multiple screens/heads?
It doesn't do systemwide/permanent settings. (But I think the GNOME tool
also doesn't implement that at this time.)
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Kevin Kofler, Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59:00 +0200:
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a tool
for managing multiple screens/heads?
> 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
Somebody suggested Xorg -configure but the main point
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 05:28:31PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > system-config-display depends on gtk, so it's all a matter of degree.
>
> No, I would never mention Gtk as a dep.
So, like I said, it's a matter of degree. This is all
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> >> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
>> >
>> > Demonstrably
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:59 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> Adam Jackson wrote:
> >> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> >> > configuration too
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
> >
> > Demonstrably true, but I don't see how it's relevant.
>
> You suggested `gno
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
>> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
>> > default" butt
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> > default" button.
>
> Uh…
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
Demonstrably tru
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:20:23PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
> >
> > That's an X bug. File a bug.
>
> I wonder how usable Bugzilla is in Lynx with 80×25 characters.
Works absolutely f
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
>
> That's an X bug. File a bug.
I wonder how usable Bugzilla is in Lynx with 80×25 characters.
Björn Persson
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Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-detected, or
> configured, driver fails after 3 attempts instead of attempting to start
> 30 times and failing 30 times. A desktop notification should be
> triggered that says "Hey! X failed and you're using a bas
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 20:27 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> 2. What about systemwide settings? (system-config-display did those.)
> >
> > What system wide settings?
>
> The settings in xorg.conf which apply to all users. Presumably, a "make
> default" button would be per use
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 13:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
> > display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display --reconfig
> > was a way to fix such problems.)
>
> That's an X bu
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59 +0200
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
>> Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
>> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
>> > default" butto
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
> display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display --reconfig
> was a way to fix such problems.)
That's an X bug. File a bug.
Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-d
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:59 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > > I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> > > someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
> > >
> >
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> 2. What about systemwide settings? (system-config-display did those.)
>
> What system wide settings?
The settings in xorg.conf which apply to all users. Presumably, a "make
default" button would be per user. Or would it be for the systemwide
xorg.conf? Personally, I'd find
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> > default" button.
>
> Uh…
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
Very true. I woul
Adam Jackson wrote:
> Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> default" button.
Uh…
1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
2. What about systemwide settings? (system-config-display did those.)
3. What if you c
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> > someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
> >
> > This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so,
On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
>
> This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so, do
> speak up if you take it so we can sort that out.
Assuming n
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