Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-08 Thread Adam Jackson
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 16:52 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > As I said, I don't understand much about them. i.e., I don't know what > they're used for. i.e., flippant answers aren't terribly helpful. =) I > am terribly sorry for only having shown up within the last decade or so, > I fully appreciat

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-05 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-02-05 at 15:21 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > > I don't understand much about utmp and wtmp, but if appropriate they > > could be specifically excepted from the policy. Ditto the ConsoleKit > > history. What's the rationale for these being world-readable? > > Unix used to be a multiuse

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-05 Thread Adam Jackson
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:39 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:14 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > > - Declaring "Read from system logs containing any information about user > > activities" to be a privileged action, means that who(1) and last(1) > > break, since utmp and wtmp are

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-04 Thread Björn Persson
Adam Jackson wrote: > - "Read or write directly to or from system memory" is, technically, > something every process does. "Device or kernel memory" might be closer > to the spirit of the law? That wouldn't cover other users' processes. How about "memory that is not allocated to the users' own p

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-04 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 15:14 -0500, Adam Jackson wrote: > Some nitpicking: > > - "Read or write directly to or from system memory" is, technically, > something every process does. "Device or kernel memory" might be closer > to the spirit of the law? Yeah, that's one people have said is somewhat

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-04 Thread Adam Jackson
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:47 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi again, folks. Here is another draft of the privilege escalation > policy. This is the sixth draft (second to this list). Changes: one of > Kevin Kofler's queries alerted me to the fact that somehow all the > changes between draft 1 and

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 11:33 +0100, Tomas Mraz wrote: > > again, comments are welcome! This is probably going to FESco next week, > > not tomorrow, apparently they have a heavy schedule tomorrow. > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_Fedora_privilege_escalation_policy > > Wha

Re: Next privilege escalation policy draft

2010-02-02 Thread Tomas Mraz
On Mon, 2010-02-01 at 15:47 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > Hi again, folks. Here is another draft of the privilege escalation > policy. This is the sixth draft (second to this list). Changes: one of > Kevin Kofler's queries alerted me to the fact that somehow all the > changes between draft 1 and