Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-07 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 06/07/2011 07:04 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: > I agree with you but this bug is a bit special in that it is several > versions out of date. If this was F14 or even F13, the Epoch bump would be > good. But adding a bump for a mistake on a F10 branch seems unnecessary now. Even though that makes t

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-06 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:34:40PM +0300, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On 06/03/2011 05:52 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: > > > Anyway, I'll tell Jeremy he'll need to manually remove/update. > > In my opinion this is a good (or bad?) example how users' life is made > harder due to irrational fear of the Epoc

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-04 Thread Ville Skyttä
On 06/03/2011 05:52 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: > Anyway, I'll tell Jeremy he'll need to manually remove/update. In my opinion this is a good (or bad?) example how users' life is made harder due to irrational fear of the Epoch. Telling Jeremy won't help people who don't know that the problem exist

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-03 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Peter Hutterer wrote: > > true, but anyone who would have had hulahop installed at F-10 time and did > the (guaranteed) update to F11, F12, ... F15 at the right times would still > have this issue now, right? > > tbh, it seems to be corner case enough to just say "u

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 03:12:39AM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:39:13 +1000 > Peter Hutterer wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:21:14AM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > > However, given that the problematic package only appeared in Fedora > > > 10 and upgrade paths are gua

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-02 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 09:39:13 +1000 Peter Hutterer wrote: > On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:21:14AM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > > However, given that the problematic package only appeared in Fedora > > 10 and upgrade paths are guaranteed by Fedora policy only from > > F(N-1) to F(N), I'd say that there

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-02 Thread Peter Hutterer
On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:21:14AM +0300, Jussi Lehtola wrote: > On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:51:55 +1000 > Peter Hutterer wrote: > > hulahop had it's Epoch bumped on the F-10 branch to > > hulahop-1:0.4.6-5.fc10 (commit 3c3f6d12edb) to undo 0.4.7 update. > > That epoch bump was limited to F-10, no other

Re: Guidance on hulahop epoch usage

2011-06-02 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Fri, 3 Jun 2011 08:51:55 +1000 Peter Hutterer wrote: > hulahop had it's Epoch bumped on the F-10 branch to > hulahop-1:0.4.6-5.fc10 (commit 3c3f6d12edb) to undo 0.4.7 update. > That epoch bump was limited to F-10, no other branches saw it afaict. > > So anyone who ever installed the F-10 packa