Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 11:51:55AM +0200, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On 12/5/24 10:42 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:53:05AM +0100, Jan Kolarik wrote: > > > Hi Zbyszek, > > > > > > Thank you for your interest in this proposal! > > > > > > I'd like to see behav

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 11:39:30AM -, Peter Oliver wrote: > Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > > > As to the implementation: the distro has a historical list of all keys > > used to sign its packages. For any given release we know which keys > > are "old". In some fixed location, distribute

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Peter Oliver
Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > As to the implementation: the distro has a historical list of all keys > used to sign its packages. For any given release we know which keys > are "old". In some fixed location, distribute a file that lists the > hashes of "old keys" (old relative to the curren

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Panu Matilainen
On 12/5/24 10:42 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:53:05AM +0100, Jan Kolarik wrote: Hi Zbyszek, Thank you for your interest in this proposal! I'd like to see behaviour where keys for EOL releases are removed as soon as possible. I.e. if I have upgraded to F42,

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Dec 05, 2024 at 08:53:05AM +0100, Jan Kolarik wrote: > Hi Zbyszek, > > Thank you for your interest in this proposal! > > I'd like to see behaviour where keys for EOL releases are removed as > > soon as possible. I.e. if I have upgraded to F42, but still have a > > package from F39, then k

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi Jan, > On 5. Dec 2024, at 09:15, Jan Kolarik wrote: > > Although this wasn’t the main intent of the proposal, it was suggested by the > RPM team to also consider this aspect when checking for expired PGP keys. The > idea is to leverage the existing RPM method pgpPubKeyLint, which evaluates

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-05 Thread Jan Kolarik
Hello Clemens, Thank you as well for supporting the proposal! Does this mean that after switching to a more strict crypto-policy, the > next run would remove (or propose to remove) keys that are no longer > considered secure under that crypto-policy? Although this wasn’t the main intent of the

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-04 Thread Jan Kolarik
Hi Zbyszek, Thank you for your interest in this proposal! I'd like to see behaviour where keys for EOL releases are removed as > soon as possible. I.e. if I have upgraded to F42, but still have a > package from F39, then keep the key for F39 so that rpm doesn't > faceplant. But as soon as I remov

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-04 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Dec 03, 2024 at 05:18:12PM +, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce wrote: > Wiki - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Dnf5ExpiredPGPKeys > The proposed solution is a new LIBDNF5 plugin. This plugin will act as > a hook, checking for invalid repository PGP keys on the system before > e

Re: F42 Change Proposal: DNF5 Expired Keys (System-Wide)

2024-12-04 Thread Clemens Lang
Hi Jan, I support this proposal, it’s a good idea and it will certainly improve the user experience in this area. I have one question: > On 3. Dec 2024, at 18:18, Aoife Moloney via devel-announce > wrote: > > We aim to address customer issues when installing RPM packages from > repositories