On Wed, Jul 4, 2018, at 9:17 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
>
> - something else ?
The rpm-ostree tracking issue is here:
https://github.com/projectatomic/rpm-ostree/issues/1435
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On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 02:21:58PM +0100, Richard Hughes wrote:
> > - pkcon ?
> > - Gnome Software ?
> I've been talking internally about this. The idea is for pkcon and
> GNOME Software to have a superficial view of what modules are, but not
> to actually expose all the nitty-gritty detail. It's o
On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 01:17:06PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
> Hmm, all those details… What about a checklist? ;)
> - dnf ✓
> - dnfdragora ?
> - pkcon ?
> - Gnome Software ?
> - yum - (not needed)
> - something else ?
microdnf and cockpit
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On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 at 14:17, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
> - pkcon ?
> - Gnome Software ?
I've been talking internally about this. The idea is for pkcon and
GNOME Software to have a superficial view of what modules are, but not
to actually expose all the nitty-gritty detail. It's on my rad
On Wed, Jul 04, 2018 at 08:50:32AM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:38 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:20:59PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > > It also carries with it the implication that the supported package
> > > managers
> >
On Wed, Jul 4, 2018 at 7:38 AM Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:20:59PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > It also carries with it the implication that the supported package managers
> > must handle module updates correctly. (It does *not* require that they all
>
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 02:20:59PM -0400, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> It also carries with it the implication that the supported package managers
> must handle module updates correctly. (It does *not* require that they all
> be able to handle selecting/switching module streams, but it must honor
> w
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 9:43 AM Stephen John Smoogen
wrote:
> On 21 June 2018 at 09:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:51 AM Petr Pisar wrote:
> >>
> >> On 2018-06-21, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> >> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler
> >> > wrote:
>
On 21 June 2018 at 09:05, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:51 AM Petr Pisar wrote:
>>
>> On 2018-06-21, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
>> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler
>> > wrote:
>> >> Will the repositories be enabled or disabled by default?
>> >>
>> >
>> > E
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 8:51 AM Petr Pisar wrote:
> On 2018-06-21, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler
> wrote:
> >> Will the repositories be enabled or disabled by default?
> >>
> >
> > Enabled by default. Packaging policy will require that modules with a
On 2018-06-21, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Will the repositories be enabled or disabled by default?
>>
>
> Enabled by default. Packaging policy will require that modules with a
> default stream may not override packages in the standard repo.
>
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 5:17 AM Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Jan Kurik wrote:
> > In Fedora 28, the Server Edition debuted new modular functionality,
> > allowing end-users access to alternative versions of popular software.
> Due
> > to technical limitations with package-management software, it was not
Jan Kurik wrote:
> In Fedora 28, the Server Edition debuted new modular functionality,
> allowing end-users access to alternative versions of popular software. Due
> to technical limitations with package-management software, it was not
> available for non-Server deployments of Fedora. Beginning wit
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 5:12 PM Josh Boyer wrote:
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> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 4:12 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > No. A hybrid repository is a repository that has both regular RPMs
> > > and modules, with repo metadata that d
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 4:12 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > No. A hybrid repository is a repository that has both regular RPMs
> > and modules, with repo metadata that describes both. It avoids having
> > a separate repository for eac
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> No. A hybrid repository is a repository that has both regular RPMs
> and modules, with repo metadata that describes both. It avoids having
> a separate repository for each and allows a natural transition from
> normal RPM to modules wi
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:58 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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>
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:50 PM Matthew Miller
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:02:47PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
>> > > Correct, this is about ensuring that all Fedora installations have
>> > > access to the modules we bui
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:49 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:02:47PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > Correct, this is about ensuring that all Fedora installations have
> > > access to the modules we build, but there's no change to how
> > > they're stored on mirrors, etc.
>
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 3:50 PM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:02:47PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > > Correct, this is about ensuring that all Fedora installations have
> > > access to the modules we build, but there's no change to how
> > > they're stored on mirrors, etc.
> >
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:23:02PM -0400, Owen Taylor wrote:
> * There are no plans to add any user interface to enable/disable modules
> in the GNOME Software user interface.
I think this is _probably_ okay, because Software only shows a
selection of GUI applications anyway. At least assuming we
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:02:47PM -0400, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Correct, this is about ensuring that all Fedora installations have
> > access to the modules we build, but there's no change to how
> > they're stored on mirrors, etc.
> Ok. Do we ever foresee the hybrid repository approach happening
I'm not sure it needs to be mentioned in the change proposal - but there
are some caveats to this as it applies to the workstation:
* There are no plans to add any user interface to enable/disable modules
in the GNOME Software user interface.
* If we even want graphical applications from enabled
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 2:22 PM Stephen Gallagher wrote:
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>
>
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:49 PM Josh Boyer wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:14 PM Jan Kurik wrote:
>> >
>> > = Proposed System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone =
>> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModulesForEveryone
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:49 PM Josh Boyer
wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:14 PM Jan Kurik wrote:
> >
> > = Proposed System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone =
> > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModulesForEveryone
> >
> >
> > Owner(s):
> > * Stephen Gallagher
> > * Langdon White
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 1:14 PM Jan Kurik wrote:
>
> = Proposed System Wide Change: Modules for Everyone =
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ModulesForEveryone
>
>
> Owner(s):
> * Stephen Gallagher
> * Langdon White
>
>
> All Fedora installations will have modular repositories enabled
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