Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-05-27 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between versions 5.* and 6.* to AGPLv3+ from […]. As those two licenses are not compatible, packages using the BerkeleyDB either has to change its license to AGPLv3+ compatible, keep on

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-05-14 Thread Paolo Bonzini
Il 24/04/2014 16:50, Kevin Fenzi ha scritto: > Well, in the current plan (make libdb5 "compat" package and updating > the libdb to v6), after the mass rebuild the packages would start > using v6. Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't paying attention rebuil

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-25 Thread Jerry James
On Fri, Apr 25, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Jan Staněk wrote: > Well, both GPLv3+ and AGPLv3+ have clause ([1], [2]) that allow code > licensed under one of them link with code under the other one legally - > only if you run the full product on a server and it interact with users > trough network, you have t

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-25 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 24.4.2014 17:22, Jerry James napsal(a): > I need some advice on how to handle this for XEmacs, which is a GPLv3+ > package. Well, both GPLv3+ and AGPLv3+ have clause ([1], [2]) that allow code licensed under one of them link with code under the other one legally - only if you run the full pr

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 9:39 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote: > You'll have the option of moving to libdb5 , without a license change or > need to convert data. That should be easiest, at least in the medium term > while libdb5 is actively maintained. Sure, but long term I still have the same problem,

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Miloslav Trmač
2014-04-24 17:22 GMT+02:00 Jerry James : > On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who > > aren't paying attention rebuild for some other reason and are not on v6 > > when it's a licensing problem. ;( > > I need som

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Jerry James
On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 8:50 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who > aren't paying attention rebuild for some other reason and are not on v6 > when it's a licensing problem. ;( I need some advice on how to handle this for XEmacs, which is a

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:31:43 +0200 Jan Staněk wrote: > Well, in the current plan (make libdb5 "compat" package and updating > the libdb to v6), after the mass rebuild the packages would start > using v6. Yeah, which makes technical sense... but the concern is packagers who aren't paying attentio

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-24 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 23.4.2014 20:23, Miloslav Trmač napsal(a): > Hello, > 2014-04-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > >> = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 >> > > At the FESCo meeting, we were unclear what happens to packages that don't > get u

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-23 Thread Miloslav Trmač
Hello, 2014-04-11 13:18 GMT+02:00 Jaroslav Reznik : > = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 > At the FESCo meeting, we were unclear what happens to packages that don't get updated; will they sty at v5, or will they (immediately, or aft

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-23 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 16.4.2014 15:44, Petr Pisar napsal(a): > On 2014-04-11, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 > [...] >> The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between >> versions 5.* and 6.* to

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-16 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2014-04-11, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >= Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 [...] > The BerkeleyDB, used between others by rpm [1], changed license between > versions 5.* and 6.* to AGPLv3+ from GPLv2+. As those two licenses are not

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/15/2014 03:40 PM, Jan Staněk wrote: Dne 11.4.2014 16:59, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: == Scope == * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper versioning in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. Is this symbol versioning

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 16:59, Bill Nottingham napsal(a): > Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: >> == Scope == >> * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper >> versioning >> in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. > > Is this symbol versioning intended to be upstream?

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 14:57, Chris Adams napsal(a): > Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said: >> Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to >> AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older version for packages which >> cannot >> use BerkeleyDB with the new license. > >

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-15 Thread Jan Staněk
Dne 11.4.2014 15:55, Florian Weimer napsal(a): > On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >> = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 >> >> Change owner(s): Jan Staněk >> >> Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous r

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Bill Nottingham
Jaroslav Reznik (jrez...@redhat.com) said: > == Scope == > * Proposal owners: Create new set of packages and introduce proper versioning > in order to not confuse the dynamic linker. Is this symbol versioning intended to be upstream? Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org htt

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Florian Weimer
On 04/11/2014 01:18 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: = Proposed System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6 = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/BerkeleyDB_6 Change owner(s): Jan Staněk Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older

Re: F21 System Wide Change: BerkeleyDB 6

2014-04-11 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jaroslav Reznik said: > Add BerkeleyDB v. 6, which changed license from previous releases (GPLv2+ to > AGPLv3+), to Fedora while keeping the older version for packages which cannot > use BerkeleyDB with the new license. Have the packages that cannot use libdb-6 because of the