Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-18 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/18/2012 05:38 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 03/19/2012 03:02 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> On 03/18/2012 05:28 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> >>> On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >>> >>> >>> Question then would be, can I do a yum upgrade to go from F16 to F17 or

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-18 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 03/19/2012 03:02 AM, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 03/18/2012 05:28 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: >> On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >> >> >>> Question then would be, can I do a yum upgrade to go from F16 to F17 or >>> F18 if things aren't fixed for F17? >>> >> Might work. Not tested.

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-18 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/18/2012 05:28 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > > >> Question then would be, can I do a yum upgrade to go from F16 to F17 or >> F18 if things aren't fixed for F17? >> > Might work. Not tested. What you're after is preupgrade. > http://fedorapro

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-18 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 18, 2012, at 3:23 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > Question then would be, can I do a yum upgrade to go from F16 to F17 or > F18 if things aren't fixed for F17? Might work. Not tested. What you're after is preupgrade. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedora

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-18 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/17/2012 12:51 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 00:17 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> >> And for anyone interested in the history of 3D graphics hardware here's >> an article with a lot of good hardware photos and info: >> >> >> http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 16:36:07 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: Bruno Wolff III wrote: They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, which was a very nice card. It was reasonably priced and didn't need a fan on the card. That's still the graphics card on my primary computer. :-) I still have one in

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
PS (I forgot to mention that in my previous reply): Bruno Wolff III wrote: > They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, which was a very nice card. > It was reasonably priced and didn't need a fan on the card. And for several years, it was the best chipset with Free drivers. Kevin Kofler --

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Kevin Kofler
Bruno Wolff III wrote: > They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, which was a very nice card. > It was reasonably priced and didn't need a fan on the card. That's still the graphics card on my primary computer. :-) Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 21:51:19 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: Hey, that's pretty good. Don't see any big mistakes, and they even got the i740 in there. Solid 8 or 9 out of 10 I'd say. I wish they had included chip set names for more of the cards. They didn't list the rv280 / ATI 9200, whic

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2012-03-17 at 00:17 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 03/16/2012 06:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 23:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > >> Adam Williamson wrote: > >> > >>> It's a fairly well-known issue that you can't build the NVIDIA driver > >>> against a d

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/16/2012 06:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 23:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > >> Adam Williamson wrote: >> >>> It's a fairly well-known issue that you can't build the NVIDIA driver >>> against a debug kernel without tweaking something somewhere. It works >>> fine

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 23:18 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Adam Williamson wrote: > > It's a fairly well-known issue that you can't build the NVIDIA driver > > against a debug kernel without tweaking something somewhere. It works > > fine if you use a non-debug kernel. > > Not really: https://bugzil

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Kevin Kofler
Adam Williamson wrote: > It's a fairly well-known issue that you can't build the NVIDIA driver > against a debug kernel without tweaking something somewhere. It works > fine if you use a non-debug kernel. Not really: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=751891 Anything dlopening libGL direc

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 17:01 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 03/16/2012 02:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 14:31 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > > > >> On 03/15/2012 10:46 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> > >>> On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >>> > >>> >

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/16/2012 02:48 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 14:31 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> On 03/15/2012 10:46 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >> >>> On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote:

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2012-03-16 at 14:31 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 03/15/2012 10:46 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > > On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same p

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-16 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/15/2012 10:46 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > >> On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: >> >> >>> Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem. >>> >>> Graphics is Geforce FX 5600 >>> >>> >>

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
On 03/15/2012 10:30 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem. >> >> Graphics is Geforce FX 5600 >> > Ah. Then that'll be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 . >

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 22:22 -0400, Gerry Reno wrote: > Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem. > > Graphics is Geforce FX 5600 Ah. Then that'll be https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=745202 . -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
Yeah, installed the beta and I'm still having the exact same problem. Graphics is Geforce FX 5600 On 03/15/2012 09:05 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > >> On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: >> >> >>> Ok, I'll give that a tr

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-03-15 at 17:45 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > > > Ok, I'll give that a try. > > > > Thanks. > > I suggest netinst.iso or livecd, and enable all the repos in anaconda, > so that your installation is current from the first boot. And if y

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > Ok, I'll give that a try. > > Thanks. I suggest netinst.iso or livecd, and enable all the repos in anaconda, so that your installation is current from the first boot. Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://adm

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Gerry Reno
Ok, I'll give that a try. Thanks. On 03/15/2012 07:38 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > >> Can someone point out what is needed here or do I just file bug reports? >> > I'd suggest installing something more recent, like F17 Beta TC1. > http://dl.

Re: F17-alpha: UI unusable

2012-03-15 Thread Chris Murphy
On Mar 15, 2012, at 5:20 PM, Gerry Reno wrote: > > Can someone point out what is needed here or do I just file bug reports? I'd suggest installing something more recent, like F17 Beta TC1. http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/17-Beta.TC1/ Chris Murphy -- devel mailing list devel@lists.f