Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-07 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Matthew Miller writes: > On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 12:43:02PM -0700, stan via devel wrote: > > To each their own, of course, but there was a long discussion of > > discourse here a while ago. I tried it out, but it was like a bad > > version of a mailing list. It sent me a mail informing me tha

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-06 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, May 05, 2019 at 12:43:02PM -0700, stan via devel wrote: > To each their own, of course, but there was a long discussion of > discourse here a while ago. I tried it out, but it was like a bad > version of a mailing list. It sent me a mail informing me that there > were messages to read. T

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-05 Thread qrsBRWN
On May 5, 2019 9:43:02 PM GMT+02:00, stan via devel wrote: >On Sun, 5 May 2019 14:19:59 +0200 >Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > >> Hello, qrsBRWN. >> >> Sun, 05 May 2019 10:57:06 +0200 you wrote: >> >> > Exactly what platform did you have in mind? >> >> Discourse[1] for example. GTK deve

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-05 Thread Garry T. Williams
On Sunday, May 5, 2019 3:43:02 PM EDT stan via devel wrote: > On Sun, 5 May 2019 14:19:59 +0200 > Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > Hello, qrsBRWN. > > > > Sun, 05 May 2019 10:57:06 +0200 you wrote: > > > > > Exactly what platform did you have in mind? > > > > Discourse[1] for example. GTK

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-05 Thread stan via devel
On Sun, 5 May 2019 14:19:59 +0200 Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > Hello, qrsBRWN. > > Sun, 05 May 2019 10:57:06 +0200 you wrote: > > > Exactly what platform did you have in mind? > > Discourse[1] for example. GTK developers already testing it[2] as > mailing lists replacement. > > 1: http

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-05 Thread Roberto Ragusa
On 5/4/19 11:04 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: That's why it's time to deprecate all mailing lists and switch to modern Web 2.0 platforms. I swear I've intended this as a joke, before reading replies and realizing it was supposed to be serious. Regards. -- Roberto Ragusamail at ro

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-05 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello, qrsBRWN. Sun, 05 May 2019 10:57:06 +0200 you wrote: > Exactly what platform did you have in mind? Discourse[1] for example. GTK developers already testing it[2] as mailing lists replacement. 1: https://github.com/discourse/discourse 2: https://blog.gtk.org/2019/03/05/testing-discourse-fo

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-05 Thread qrsBRWN
On May 4, 2019 11:04:51 PM GMT+02:00, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: >Hello, Stephen J. Turnbull. > >Sun, 5 May 2019 05:58:48 +0900 you wrote: > >> As a Mailman developer, I >> will strongly oppose turning on user choice by default because my >> constituents are list owners, not subscribers.

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-04 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello, Stephen J. Turnbull. Sun, 5 May 2019 05:58:48 +0900 you wrote: > As a Mailman developer, I > will strongly oppose turning on user choice by default because my > constituents are list owners, not subscribers. But that implies it > would be rarely available. That's why it's time to deprec

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Florian Weimer writes: > Based on some reports, I don't think this is how the Gmail > implementation works. It will discard mailing list mail for senders > with a DMARC policy that does not set p=reject, too. Based on conversations with GMail developers, that has nothing to do with DMARC, tho

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-04 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Vitaly Zaitsev via devel writes: > I think it should be an option in mailman's settings. Each user can > enable or disable mitigations for his email address. Patches welcome at GNU Mailman. Potential time waste warning: The list owner must have the choice whether to delegate the choice to subs

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-02 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
Hello, Kevin Fenzi. Wed, 1 May 2019 08:43:23 -0700 you wrote: > I guess I will enable the From field mitigation for this list, but I > will not like it. Now it should work fine. Thanks. I think it should be an option in mailman's settings. Each user can enable or disable mitigations for his ema

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Tom Hughes: > On 02/05/2019 09:21, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Stephen J. Turnbull: >> >>> It's possible to do this only for domains that advertise p=reject. >>> They deserve what they get. >>> >>> If there are any issues that seem like they can be addressed in >>> upstream GNU Mailman (unfortuna

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Hughes
On 02/05/2019 09:21, Florian Weimer wrote: * Stephen J. Turnbull: It's possible to do this only for domains that advertise p=reject. They deserve what they get. If there are any issues that seem like they can be addressed in upstream GNU Mailman (unfortunately, we don't carry a stick big enoug

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Stephen J. Turnbull: > It's possible to do this only for domains that advertise p=reject. > They deserve what they get. > > If there are any issues that seem like they can be addressed in > upstream GNU Mailman (unfortunately, we don't carry a stick big enough > to convince blockheaded mail doma

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 5/1/19 12:06 PM, Björn Persson wrote: > Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: >> Kevin Fenzi writes: >> > I guess I will enable the From field mitigation for this list, but I >> > will not like it. ;) >> >> It's possible to do this only for domains that advertise p=reject. > > Yes please, don't break

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-01 Thread Björn Persson
Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Kevin Fenzi writes: > > I guess I will enable the From field mitigation for this list, but I > > will not like it. ;) > > It's possible to do this only for domains that advertise p=reject. Yes please, don't break things more than what's necessary. Björn Persson

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-01 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Kevin Fenzi writes: > On 4/30/19 4:46 AM, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: > > Hello all! > > > > Currently Fedora mailing lists use "From" field from original messages > > and if sender's domain use DMARC=reject policy, mailing lists > > subscribers cannot receive any messages from such users because

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-05-01 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 4/30/19 4:46 AM, Vitaly Zaitsev wrote: > Hello all! > > Currently Fedora mailing lists use "From" field from original messages > and if sender's domain use DMARC=reject policy, mailing lists > subscribers cannot receive any messages from such users because their MX > servers follow DMARC proced

Re: Enable dmarc mitigations

2019-04-30 Thread Florian Weimer
* Vitaly Zaitsev: > Currently Fedora mailing lists use "From" field from original messages > and if sender's domain use DMARC=reject policy, mailing lists > subscribers cannot receive any messages from such users because their MX > servers follow DMARC procedure and drop them. > > Previously I ope