Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 11/2/20 10:29 PM, David Howells wrote: Jakub Jelen wrote: Today, I set up a copr repository with the current openssh from Fedora + the patch [2] for anyone to test and provide feedback, either here on the mailing list, or in the github PR according to ones preferences. Does it work with c

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-03 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 11/2/20 4:05 PM, Marius Schwarz wrote: Am 02.11.20 um 15:44 schrieb Jakub Jelen: Hi Fedora users! Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, which lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. Most of the voices there said that they use SCP most

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread David Howells
Jakub Jelen wrote: > Today, I set up a copr repository with the current openssh from Fedora + the > patch [2] for anyone to test and provide feedback, either here on the mailing > list, or in the github PR according to ones preferences. Does it work with connection sharing (ControlPath, ControlM

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, November 2, 2020 6:31:33 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote: > * Kamil Dudka: > > On Monday, November 2, 2020 5:57:29 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote: > >> * Kamil Dudka: > >> > As far as I know, (lib)curl has never silently transformed a protocol > >> > scheme explicitly specified with URL. This

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Kamil Dudka: > On Monday, November 2, 2020 5:57:29 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Kamil Dudka: >> >> >> > As far as I know, (lib)curl has never silently transformed a protocol >> > scheme explicitly specified with URL. This can be discussed upstream >> > but I do not feel like starting the

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, November 2, 2020 5:57:29 PM CET Florian Weimer wrote: > * Kamil Dudka: > > > > As far as I know, (lib)curl has never silently transformed a protocol > > scheme explicitly specified with URL. This can be discussed upstream > > but I do not feel like starting the discussion myself. > >

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Kamil Dudka: > As far as I know, (lib)curl has never silently transformed a protocol scheme > explicitly specified with URL. This can be discussed upstream but I do not > feel like starting the discussion myself. Curl does it for https://, so it should be fine for scp://. Thanks, Florian --

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, November 2, 2020 4:47:47 PM CET Simo Sorce wrote: > On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 16:36 +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > > How is the "compatibility scpd to support old clients" going to differ > > from the current implementation? > > > > libcurl implements its own SCP client over libssh. Will this

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Jakub Jelinek
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 03:44:39PM +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote: > Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, which > lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. Most of > the voices there said that they use SCP mostly for simple ad-hoc copy and > because

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Nicolas Mailhot via devel
Le lundi 02 novembre 2020 à 16:16 +0100, Marius Schwarz a écrit : > Am 02.11.20 um 16:13 schrieb Solomon Peachy: > > On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 03:44:39PM +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote: > > > I am looking for any kind of feedback from the idea through the > > > usability, > > > implementation. Is this some

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Jakub Jelen
On 11/2/20 4:36 PM, Kamil Dudka wrote: On Monday, November 2, 2020 3:44:39 PM CET Jakub Jelen wrote: Hi Fedora users! Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, which lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. Most of the voices there said that th

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Simo Sorce
On Mon, 2020-11-02 at 16:36 +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Monday, November 2, 2020 3:44:39 PM CET Jakub Jelen wrote: > > Hi Fedora users! > > > > Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, > > which lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. > > M

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, November 2, 2020 3:44:39 PM CET Jakub Jelen wrote: > Hi Fedora users! > > Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, > which lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. > Most of the voices there said that they use SCP mostly for simple a

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 02.11.20 um 16:13 schrieb Solomon Peachy: On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 03:44:39PM +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote: I am looking for any kind of feedback from the idea through the usability, implementation. Is this something you would like to see in Fedora soon? Do you have something against this? Is your

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Solomon Peachy
On Mon, Nov 02, 2020 at 03:44:39PM +0100, Jakub Jelen wrote: > I am looking for any kind of feedback from the idea through the usability, > implementation. Is this something you would like to see in Fedora soon? Do > you have something against this? Is your use case missing? I like it! scp-the-to

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 02.11.20 um 15:44 schrieb Jakub Jelen: Hi Fedora users! Over the last years, there were several issues in the SCP protocol, which lead us into discussions if we can get rid of it in upstream [1]. Most of the voices there said that they use SCP mostly for simple ad-hoc copy and because sftp

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread José Abílio Matos
On Monday, November 2, 2020 2:44:39 PM WET Jakub Jelen wrote: > I am looking for any kind of feedback from the idea through the > usability, implementation. Is this something you would like to see in > Fedora soon? Do you have something against this? Is your use case missing? Hi Jakub, if I am n

Re: Deprecating SCP

2020-11-02 Thread Paul Wouters
On Mon, 2 Nov 2020, Jakub Jelen wrote: Some months ago, I wrote a patch [2] for scp to use SFTP internally (with possibility to change it back using -M scp) and ran it through some successful testing. The general feedback from upstream was also quite positive so I would like to hear also opini