On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 15:08 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Adam Williamson
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
> > > wrote:
> > > > The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that Re
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 2:52 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
>> wrote:
>> > The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>> >
>> > https://access.redhat.com/documentati
On Mon, Aug 7, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Adam Williamson
wrote:
> Well, no, you're getting cause and effect mixed up, there. RH doesn't
> have btrfs developers on staff *because* RH, over time, has broadly
> come to the conclusion that btrfs isn't the storage tech it wants to
> roll with. It's not that RH
On Mon, 2017-08-07 at 14:46 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
> wrote:
> > The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
> >
> > https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/cha
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 9:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-7.4_Release_Notes-Deprecated_Functional
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 10:56 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> >
> > That's all fine and good but features mean nothing if you don't have
> faith
> > in the underlying filesystem.
> > People have been burnt by Btrfs and just don't trust it's design.
>
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 1:38 PM, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>>
>>
>> There are plenty of "clever" kernel modules that do bits and pieces of
>> what Btrfs offers.
>>
>> ...there you can leverage all the benefits of Btrfs.
>>
>
> That's all fine and good
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> There are plenty of "clever" kernel modules that do bits and pieces of
> what Btrfs offers.
...there you can leverage all the benefits of Btrfs.
>
>
That's all fine and good but features mean nothing if you don't have faith
in the underlying
On Sat, Aug 05, 2017 at 12:58:15PM -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 06:00:58PM +0200, František Zatloukal wrote:
> >> Some insight why was BTRFS dropped by RH:
> >> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14907771
> >>
>
On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 06:00:58PM +0200, František Zatloukal wrote:
>> Some insight why was BTRFS dropped by RH:
>> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14907771
>>
>> Also check out Stratis:
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Str
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 06:00:58PM +0200, František Zatloukal wrote:
> Some insight why was BTRFS dropped by RH:
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14907771
>
> Also check out Stratis:
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StratisStorage
Stratis is a management tool that makes it a bit eas
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Tomasz Torcz wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 06:43:51PM +0200, David Sommerseth wrote:
>> On 04/08/17 18:06, Neal Gompa wrote:
>> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Fernando Nasser
>> > wrote:
>> >> On 2017-08-04 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>> >>
>> >> The
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:48 AM, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> I'm not particularly pleased with their decision. I think the path
> they're going down is wrong, and they should really reconsider.
> However, I'm reading over their Stratis whitepaper before I formulate
> a response about it.
>
> I don't thi
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 06:43:51PM +0200, David Sommerseth wrote:
> On 04/08/17 18:06, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
> >> On 2017-08-04 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> >>
> >> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 10:18 AM, Richard Hughes wrote:
> On 4 August 2017 at 16:46, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> > ...it fails the most basic requirement of a filesystem -- to not
> > eat data.
>
> Me also; I've tried btfs three times now -- in one case telling me I
> had no free space after a few we
On 4 August 2017 at 16:46, Solomon Peachy wrote:
> ...it fails the most basic requirement of a filesystem -- to not
> eat data.
Me also; I've tried btfs three times now -- in one case telling me I
had no free space after a few weeks when clearly there was tens GBs
free, one time needing to wipe a
On 04/08/17 18:06, Neal Gompa wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
>> On 2017-08-04 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>>
>> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>>
>>
>> Is it only RHEL?
>>
>> What are other distros doing?
>>
>
> It is
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:23 AM, Fernando Nasser wrote:
> On 2017-08-04 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
>
> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>
>
> Is it only RHEL?
>
> What are other distros doing?
>
It is only RHEL, but unfortunately that has a *huge* knoc
Some insight why was BTRFS dropped by RH:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14907771
Also check out Stratis:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/StratisStorage
2017-08-04 17:12 GMT+02:00 Przemek Klosowski :
> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>
> https:/
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-7.4_Release_Notes-Deprecated_Functiona
On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski
wrote:
> The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
>
> https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux-7.4_Release_Notes-Deprecated_Functiona
On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 11:12:46AM -0400, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
> This is a pity---BTRFS features looked attractive:
Regardless of the attractiveness of btr's feature sets, the RH
annoucnement is an indication that they don't consider it supportable
for the kinds of users that fork over money
On 04/08/17 16:23, Fernando Nasser wrote:
On 2017-08-04 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
Is it only RHEL?
Yes, it is only RHEL. It does not have any effect on Fedora, that is
entirely independent,
Steve.
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On 2017-08-04 11:12 AM, Przemek Klosowski wrote:
The release notes for RHEL 7.4 announce that RedHat gave up on btrfs:
Is it only RHEL?
What are other distros doing?
https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/7.4_Release_Notes/chap-Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linu
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