On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 13:23, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:49 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear developers,
> > sorry for a slightly off-topic post, but I've noticed that a significant
> > number of posters is sending HTML e-mail to this list (not to menti
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:49 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
>
> Dear developers,
> sorry for a slightly off-topic post, but I've noticed that a significant
> number of posters is sending HTML e-mail to this list (not to mention
> top-replying), which generates unnecessary network traffic.
On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 10:11 AM Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 12:55:12PM +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
> > domi...@greysector.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> >
> > Hello, Dominik ;)
> >
> > s
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 12:55:12PM +0200, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
> domi...@greysector.net> wrote:
>
> > Dear developers,
> >
>
> Hello, Dominik ;)
>
> sorry for a slightly off-topic post, but I've noticed that a significant
> > num
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 6:56 PM Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
>
> Brian (bex) Exelbierd writes:
>
> > The question was genuine. Additionally, even at this site, the user
> > profile doesn't seem to be present.
>
> I doubt there is a user profile chapter or page for HyperKitty at the
> Mailman proj
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 10:28:45PM -, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> Please do. Neal and I are starting up an effort. I reached out to
> Abhilash, the upstream lead, last night on the devel list and he was very
> responsive to this idea. He's already created a gitlab subproject for our
> efforts upstrea
Brian (bex) Exelbierd writes:
> The question was genuine. Additionally, even at this site, the user
> profile doesn't seem to be present.
I doubt there is a user profile chapter or page for HyperKitty at the
Mailman project. If there is one, it would be in the HyperKitty docs
themselves.
>
On 04 Oct 2018, at 23:32, Matthew Miller wrote:
> The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
> Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> lists. Gmail, both on the web and _especially_ on mobile, makes it almost
> impossible to do
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
>
> > If this is, why has the project chosen to not document that in their
> > code/docs? That would, it seems, help contributors stay focused on
> > the goal.
> >
> https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Home?action=show&redirect=DEV
>
> I went to list.o
> If this is, why has the project chosen to not document that in their
> code/docs? That would, it seems, help contributors stay focused on
> the goal.
>
https://wiki.list.org/DEV/Home?action=show&redirect=DEV
I went to list.org, clicked on developer wiki, it's on the front page.
This is veeri
On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 4:19 PM Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
> Check my blog, where there are even scans of the napkin sketches. Or Google
> "hyperkitty ux" my blog and my outreachy interns blog pop up.
Is this in response to my question? For some reason many of your
emails have no quoting or context.
Oh and I should also point out - you shouldn't have to read all of that, the
point was to make our mailing lists accessible to folks who aren't mailing list
users, who are less technical, younger, etc., to be more conclusive. Same
reason Discourse is being peddled here. Big diff is we keep the
Check my blog, where there are even scans of the napkin sketches. Or Google
"hyperkitty ux" my blog and my outreachy interns blog pop up.
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On Sat, Oct 20, 2018 at 12:29 AM Máirín Duffy wrote:
>
>
> > I just couldn't use it for day-to-day communication. Not necessarily any
> > single thing, but lots and lots of fundamentals. How do I get a list of new
> > threads? How do I get a list of threads I've read but which have new
> > respons
> I just couldn't use it for day-to-day communication. Not necessarily any
> single thing, but lots and lots of fundamentals. How do I get a list of new
> threads? How do I get a list of threads I've read but which have new
> responses, and ideally show only the new responses? How can I mute a thr
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 01:51:02PM -0500, Mátyás Selmeci wrote:
> On 10/17/18 2:38 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> >> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400,
> >> "tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote:
> ... For html only
On 10/17/18 2:38 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400,
>> "tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote:
... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite
them, both
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:26 AM Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 03:53:06AM -, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > But we can file bugs against Discourse and they will be magically and
> > quickly fixed to our satisfaction, yes?
>
> Of course not. However: development is very active.
> htt
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 03:53:06AM -, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
> >
> > Unfortunately, all is not rosy there. See this thread on the users' list
> > from this fall about confusion with hyperkitty quoting:
> > https://lists.fedoraproject
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 03:53:06AM -, Máirín Duffy wrote:
> But we can file bugs against Discourse and they will be magically and
> quickly fixed to our satisfaction, yes?
Of course not. However: development is very active.
https://github.com/discourse/discourse/commits/master
> I'm concern
Il giorno ven 19 ott 2018 alle 5:53, =?iso-8859-1?b?TeFpcu1u?= Duffy
ha scritto:
I'm concerned that those proposing Discourse seem to not have used
Hyperkitty at length.
I'm one of those.
I've never used Hyperkitty before, but I'll give it a try now.
__
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
>
> Unfortunately, all is not rosy there. See this thread on the users' list
> from this fall about confusion with hyperkitty quoting:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.o...
It's hilarious readin
On 10/09/2018 04:06 PM, Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> One click is too much for my terminal email client via SSH on my
> phone. My email client already supports filtering into separate
> mailboxes for each list and also supports threads shown in a
> hierarchy. If Fedora lists go away in favor of
Bruno said:> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400,
"tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote:
>>> ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite
>>> them, both of which have issues.
>>I've used elinks to do that in an email forum I wrote. It worked better than
>>doing
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 19:38:20 +,
"Anderson, Charles R" wrote:
I use a perl script with these modules and some regexps to clean up
the result:
use HTML::Strip; use HTML::LinkExtor; use HTML::Entities
qw/decode_entities/; use URI::Escape qw/uri_unescape/;
Thanks, I'll take a look at usi
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 02:12:37PM -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400,
> "tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote:
> >> ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite
> >> them, both of which have issues.
> >I've used elinks to do that
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 14:48:52 -0400,
"tonynel...@georgeanelson.com" wrote:
... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite
them, both of which have issues.
I've used elinks to do that in an email forum I wrote. It worked better than
doing it with, say, Beautiful
> ... For html only messages you would either need to reject them or rewrite
> them, both of which have issues.
I've used elinks to do that in an email forum I wrote. It worked better than
doing it with, say, Beautiful Soup.
(Sorry,
Bruno.)
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 at 15:40:19 +0200,
Stop sending e-mail to public mailing lists using Gmail, then? Or are
you going to pay for affected people's bandwith? Mailing lists have push
delivery model, so it's not possible to filter-out only HTML e-mail
before it's already downloaded.
It is, but
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 8:21 PM Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> nice for you, other prefer email and *local* archives which sirely don't
> disappear *because* you control the whole client and if somebody next
> year makes a relaunch of the online stuff with a bad usability or
> lacking features you are do
On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 7:06 AM Anderson, Charles R wrote:
> One click is too much for my terminal email client via SSH on my
> phone. My email client already supports filtering into separate
> mailboxes for each list and also supports threads shown in a
> hierarchy. If Fedora lists go away in fa
On Tue, Oct 09, 2018 at 06:58:27AM -0700, Gerald B. Cox wrote:
> Completely agree - and discourse is a great solution. It allows for
> RSS feeds and
> email notifications = participation is a click away. Your email inbox
> is no longer cluttered
> with hard to follow threads, nor do you have to w
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 2:33 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
> Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> lists. Gmail, both on the web and _especially_ on mobile, makes it almost
> impossible
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 4:33 PM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
> Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> lists. Gmail, both on the web and _especially_ on mobile, makes it almost
> impossible
On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 08:25:21PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote:
> I'm more worried how these forums exclude commercial contributors. Rust
> has the same NC terms. How is this supposed to work for projects which
> are not exclusively run and used by hobbyists? How do you incorporate
> material th
* Matthew Miller:
> The Foreman community recently switched away from mailing lists in this way,
> and https://theforeman.org/2018/07/discourse-6-months-on-impact-assesment.html
> is really interesting and helpful read on the topic for those who might have
> some ... trepidation.
I'm more worried
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Matthew Miller
wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 02:02:46AM +0100, Andrew Clayton wrote:
>> Adam Williamson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
>> > > The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline
>> > > replie
On Fri, Oct 05, 2018 at 02:02:46AM +0100, Andrew Clayton wrote:
> Adam Williamson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline
> > > replies.
> > > Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-ou
On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 11:11 AM Matthew Miller wrote:
>
> On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
> > Why switch, when we already have
> > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> > ? it does good quoting already, you get to click what you w
On Thu, Oct 04, 2018 at 11:27:02PM -, Ray Strode wrote:
> Why switch, when we already have
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel@lists.fedoraproject.org
> ? it does good quoting already, you get to click what you want, and i'm
> guessing this reply i'm sending will show up plai
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:27 PM Ray Strode wrote:
>
> > I suggest that if we think this is a serious issue and that we want to
> > get the maximum possible help to those who are forced to pay by the
> > bit that we stop sending them mail they don't need all together. Lets
> > move this mailing lis
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 16:26:21 -0700
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
> > Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> > lists.
>
> ...l
> I suggest that if we think this is a serious issue and that we want to
> get the maximum possible help to those who are forced to pay by the
> bit that we stop sending them mail they don't need all together. Lets
> move this mailing list (and others) to discussion.fedoraproject.org.
Why switch,
On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 17:32 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote:
> The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
> Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> lists.
...like this one. ;)
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On Thu, Oct 4, 2018, 23:33 Matthew Miller wrote:
> The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
> Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
> lists. Gmail, both on the web and _especially_ on mobile, makes it almost
> impossible to do
The fact is, the world has moved away from quoted mail with inline replies.
Top posting rules basically everywhere except hold-out old-school mailing
lists. Gmail, both on the web and _especially_ on mobile, makes it almost
impossible to do quoting and inline replies properly. I can't imagine other
all this aside,HTML mail format is difficult to qoute and reply on
mobile,plain text would be nice.
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:34 PM, Brian (bex) Exelbierd
wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wednesday, 03 October 2018 at 08:38, Florian Weim
On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
>
> On Wednesday, 03 October 2018 at 08:38, Florian Weimer wrote:
> > * Iñaki Ucar:
> >
> > > IMO, it would be easier for everybody if the mailing list could
> > > automatically strip out the HTML part. Some projects do this (e.
On Wednesday, 03 October 2018 at 08:38, Florian Weimer wrote:
> * Iñaki Ucar:
>
> > IMO, it would be easier for everybody if the mailing list could
> > automatically strip out the HTML part. Some projects do this (e.g.,
> > R).
>
> In many cases, the quoting in the text/html part is easier to rea
* Iñaki Ucar:
> IMO, it would be easier for everybody if the mailing list could
> automatically strip out the HTML part. Some projects do this (e.g.,
> R).
In many cases, the quoting in the text/html part is easier to read (it's
clearer who wrote what) than in the text/plain part.
For example, I
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:41 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, 02 October 2018 at 12:55, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
> > domi...@greysector.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Dear developers,
> > >
> >
> > Hello, Dominik ;)
> >
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:46 AM Ankur Sinha wrote:
> A known, but unsolved issue from the looks of it (from a 2014 post):
> https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/gmail/d7ySu-m1rgY
Yep... and the issue is 4 years old and ends with the recommendation
of "Send Feedback". I have
no idea why
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 4:48 AM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
> Dear developers,
> sorry for a slightly off-topic post, but I've noticed that a significant
> number of posters is sending HTML e-mail to this list (not to mention
> top-replying), which generates unnecessary network traffic.
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 3:40 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
wrote:
Stop sending e-mail to public mailing lists using Gmail, then?
Perhaps we've reached the end of meaningful conversation in this
thread
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On Tuesday, 02 October 2018 at 13:55, Iñaki Ucar wrote:
> El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 13:48, Iñaki Ucar
> () escribió:
[...]
> > IMO, it would be easier for everybody if the mailing list could
> > automatically strip out the HTML part. Some projects do this (e.g.,
> > R).
>
> i.e., see multipart fi
On Tuesday, 02 October 2018 at 12:55, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
> domi...@greysector.net> wrote:
>
> > Dear developers,
> >
>
> Hello, Dominik ;)
>
> sorry for a slightly off-topic post, but I've noticed that a significant
> > number
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 at 07:27, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:01 AM Michal Schorm wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sending you this HTML email because Google dropped possibility to
> > > send plaintext emails. Sorry =(
> >
> > Gmail
> > -> compose
> > -> options (bottom right)
> > -> plain te
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:56 AM Iñaki Ucar wrote:
>
> El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 13:48, Iñaki Ucar
> () escribió:
> >
> > El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 13:44, Neal Gompa ()
> > escribió:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:30 AM Reindl Harald
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 02.10.1
El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 13:48, Iñaki Ucar
() escribió:
>
> El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 13:44, Neal Gompa () escribió:
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:30 AM Reindl Harald wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 02.10.18 um 13:25 schrieb Neal Gompa:
> > > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:01 AM Michal Schorm
El mar., 2 oct. 2018 a las 13:44, Neal Gompa () escribió:
>
> On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:30 AM Reindl Harald wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 02.10.18 um 13:25 schrieb Neal Gompa:
> > > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:01 AM Michal Schorm wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I'm sending you this HTML email because Google droppe
On Tue, Oct 02, 2018 07:33:44 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
>
> To be quite honest, I am not installing another mail app just for
> this. There's not a single legitimate reason for me to bother with the
> inconvenience of setting that up and effectively bypassing things like
> 2FA and whatnot.
A known
On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:30 AM Reindl Harald wrote:
>
>
>
> Am 02.10.18 um 13:25 schrieb Neal Gompa:
> > On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:01 AM Michal Schorm wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'm sending you this HTML email because Google dropped possibility to
> >>> send plaintext emails. Sorry =(
> >>
> >> Gmail
> >>
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 13:00:54 +0200
Michal Schorm wrote:
> Gmail
> -> compose
> -> options (bottom right)
> -> plain text mode
>
> doesn't work for you?
>
> (I'm sending this e-mail with this setting so who knows how can check it)
Yeah, there was no HTML part.
Andrew
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On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 7:01 AM Michal Schorm wrote:
>
> > I'm sending you this HTML email because Google dropped possibility to send
> > plaintext emails. Sorry =(
>
> Gmail
> -> compose
> -> options (bottom right)
> -> plain text mode
>
> doesn't work for you?
>
> (I'm sending this e-mail wit
> I'm sending you this HTML email because Google dropped possibility to send
> plaintext emails. Sorry =(
Gmail
-> compose
-> options (bottom right)
-> plain text mode
doesn't work for you?
(I'm sending this e-mail with this setting so who knows how can check it)
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Associate
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> So, a plea to Gmail users: please stop sending HTML e-mail to Fedora
> mailing lists.
>
> Regards,
> Dominik (who still reads e-mail in text mode in a terminal)
+1
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On Tue, Oct 2, 2018 at 12:50 PM Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski <
domi...@greysector.net> wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
Hello, Dominik ;)
sorry for a slightly off-topic post, but I've noticed that a significant
> number of posters is sending HTML e-mail to this list (not to mention
> top-replying),
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