Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-27 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:59:05 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > http://wwoods.fedorapeople.org/files/critical-path/old/critpath.py > > I've been using yum-local here, but it's not as handy as I thought > it might be. ;( > > > modify yum-local to keep say 5 copies? > > (in case something hits the fa

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-27 Thread Dodji Seketeli
Kevin Fenzi a écrit: >> modify yum-local to keep say 5 copies? >> (in case something hits the fan) > > Yeah, although you can always get them from koji. ... provided your Rawhide system is in good enough shape to reach koji. :) -- Dodji -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedor

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2013-01-24 at 11:18 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > But we would need the autoqa part to exist and be ready for this. > > I dunno what the scope of autoqa is, but even a simple dependancy > check would be sufficient - no need to wait for a full automated > qa system to be built. A

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Thu, 24 Jan 2013 15:06:50 + Frank Murphy wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:55:07 -0700 > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > Greetings. > > > > As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and > > have been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have > > run into in t

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Delaying a new package > while we fix broken deps by rebuilding things that were broken > is a *good* thing - provided we have a means to ensure the > downstream rebuilds can be performed without being delayed > by non-responsive maintainers. In principle it should be p

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 09:55:07 -0700 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and > have been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have > run into in the last month. > As a non-Dev, but running rawhide. Hence reply here.

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:54:33PM +0100, Björn Persson wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > build finishes for f19, lands in a f19-pending > > autoqa runs on the package, if it passes, tag it in to f19 > > if it doesn't, mail maintainer/etc about it. > > If there's some compelling reason it has to lan

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Björn Persson
Kevin Fenzi wrote: > build finishes for f19, lands in a f19-pending > autoqa runs on the package, if it passes, tag it in to f19 > if it doesn't, mail maintainer/etc about it. > If there's some compelling reason it has to land, the maintainer can > override and tag into f19 directly. (and then exp

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 02:23:01PM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:02:44 + > "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > > > If the deps provided by a new build have changed, then verify that > > the change deps don't cause breakage. If they do, then do not allow > > the new build into t

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 20:02:44 + "Daniel P. Berrange" wrote: > If the deps provided by a new build have changed, then verify that > the change deps don't cause breakage. If they do, then do not allow > the new build into the rawhide target. Queue the build in some kind > of build specific 'pend

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Michael Scherer
Le mercredi 23 janvier 2013 à 20:02 +, Daniel P. Berrange a écrit : > If the deps provided by a new build have changed, then verify that > the change deps don't cause breakage. If they do, then do not allow > the new build into the rawhide target. Queue the build in some kind > of build specif

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 09:55:07AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > Greetings. > > As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and have > been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have run into > in the last month. > So, I've been collecting ideas on how to improve

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:01:50AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:43:00 -0600 > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > I'd like to see a stronger push to have packagers start work in > > master, not branched. Inheritance ends up leaving stuff broken longer > > in rawhide and doesn't test b

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Mer 23 janvier 2013 19:01, Kevin Fenzi a écrit : > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:43:00 -0600 > Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >> On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 09:55:07 -0700, >>Kevin Fenzi wrote: >> > >> >So, I've been collecting ideas on how to improve things in rawhide >> >and have made a wiki page for th

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 11:01:50 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: yep. This is one reason I would prefer to just drop the inheritance. How would that work at branch? Would we always do a mass rebuild at branch? Would we use a special tag of packages at branch and inherit them, but not later chan

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 11:43:00 -0600 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 09:55:07 -0700, >Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > >So, I've been collecting ideas on how to improve things in rawhide > >and have made a wiki page for these ideas. > > > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide_improv

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/23/2013 12:25 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:08:21 -0500 "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: Would issues with specific 3.8 kernel drivers affecting rawhide be a candidate? Candidate for a tracker bug? Perhaps. It would depend on how widespread the issue is. Definitely do file a bu

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 09:55:07 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: So, I've been collecting ideas on how to improve things in rawhide and have made a wiki page for these ideas. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Rawhide_improvement_project_2013 Would the rawhide tracker bug be for rawhide users? I'm g

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 15:11:11 -0200 Paulo César Pereira de Andrade wrote: > Out of curiosity, are you experiencing this, or am I just unlucky? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=894623 > (I did not debug it and am using a f18 computer for local runs of > fedora-review or mock). I hav

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 12:08:21 -0500 "Clyde E. Kunkel" wrote: > Would issues with specific 3.8 kernel drivers affecting rawhide be a > candidate? Candidate for a tracker bug? Perhaps. It would depend on how widespread the issue is. Definitely do file a bug on it, and if you think it's a common ha

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Paulo César Pereira de Andrade
2013/1/23 Kevin Fenzi : > Greetings. > > As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and have > been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have run into > in the last month. [...] > So, I've been collecting ideas on how to improve things in rawhide and > have made

Re: [rawhide] ideas to improve rawhide

2013-01-23 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 01/23/2013 11:55 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: Greetings. As some of you may know, I switched my laptop over to rawhide and have been posting a series of blogs about the various issues I have run into in the last month. To recap from those: - xfce4-session crash: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/sho