Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.08.10 12:06, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: > > > Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be > > > "newer" than anything coming up from f14. > > > > Can I "undo" such a build? I did that mostl

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.08.10 22:10, Chen Lei (supercyp...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi Lennart, Heya, > > I found that systemd-units depends on pkgconfig, is this dependency > really needed for minimum systemd? Yes, this is intended this way. udev does the same these days. We consider .pc files simply a nice wa

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 10:10:25PM +0800, Chen Lei wrote: > I found that systemd-units depends on pkgconfig, is this dependency > really needed for minimum systemd? Please file things like this in bugzilla so they don't get lost in the chaos of this discussion list. -- Matthew Miller Senior Sy

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: > > Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be > > "newer" than anything coming up from f14. > > Can I "undo" such a build? I did that mostly because I forgot that the > branching already happened when I built systemd the

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Chen Lei
Hi Lennart, I found that systemd-units depends on pkgconfig, is this dependency really needed for minimum systemd? Regards, Chen Lei -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Lennart Poettering wrote, at 08/12/2010 10:28 PM +9:00: > On Thu, 12.08.10 00:52, Jesse Keating (jkeat...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> >> Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be >> "newer" than anything coming up from f14. > > Can I "undo" such a build? I did that mostly be

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.08.10 00:52, Jesse Keating (jkeat...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be > "newer" than anything coming up from f14. Can I "undo" such a build? I did that mostly because I forgot that the branching already happened when I built

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jesse Keating writes: > Yes, that is correct. An already built version on f15 will always be > "newer" than anything coming up from f14. Which is exactly the situation with systemd. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/12/2010 12:42 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: > Jesse Keating writes: > >> When an F14 build goes stable through bodhi, it'll be inherited into >> rawhide. > > Unless there is already a release of the package tagged dist-f15, IIUC. > > Andreas. >

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-12 Thread Andreas Schwab
Jesse Keating writes: > When an F14 build goes stable through bodhi, it'll be inherited into > rawhide. Unless there is already a release of the package tagged dist-f15, IIUC. Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, sch...@redhat.com GPG Key fingerprint = D4E8 DBE3 3813 BB5D FA84 5EC7 45C6 250E 6F00 984

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jesse Keating
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/11/2010 07:11 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 12.08.10 01:40, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > >> >> Frank Murphy wrote: >>> I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 >>> systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 04:11 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 12.08.10 01:40, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > > > > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > > I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 > > > systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to >

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.08.10 01:40, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 > > systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to > > F15(Rawhide) > > Normally, development is supposed to happen in Rawhi

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-08-12 at 01:40 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Frank Murphy wrote: > > I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 > > systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to > > F15(Rawhide) > > Normally, development is supposed to happen in Rawhide FIRST. Frank's

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Frank Murphy wrote: > I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 > systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updates to > F15(Rawhide) Normally, development is supposed to happen in Rawhide FIRST. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Frank Murphy
On 11/08/10 11:32, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > wrong: > http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=10477 > > the newer versions have only been built for f14 not rawhide. I guess they are waiting to iron out a few bugs on F14 systemd\selinux\udev? Before they push the same broken updat

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2010/8/11 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : >  On 08/11/2010 10:32 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> 2010/8/11 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": >>> On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >>> >>> instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check >>> if a clean install of latest package would work

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/11/2010 10:32 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > 2010/8/11 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": >> On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: >> >> instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check >> if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this >> result: >> >> Instal

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
2010/8/11 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" : > On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: > > instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check > if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this > result: > > Installing : systemd-units-5-2.fc15.x86_64 > > This is f

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/11/2010 09:02 AM, Rudolf Kastl wrote: instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this result: Installing : systemd-units-5-2.fc15.x86_64 This is far from being the latest packages ( the latest b

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-11 Thread Rudolf Kastl
instead of trying to workaround the problem i actually tried to check if a clean install of latest package would work properly with this result: Installing : systemd-units-5-2.fc15.x86_64 1/4 /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.sqw1k7: line 25: 19348 Segmentati

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-05 Thread Jiri Moskovcak
On 08/04/2010 02:54 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 04.08.10 02:40, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > >> >> On Wed, 04.08.10 00:10, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: >> >> Small addition. When I was referring to rawhide I meant both F-14 and >> the new rawhi

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-05 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/08/10 20:41, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Disable selinux in grub and boot with upstart > > Grap the latest systemd packages from koji ( systemd and systemd-units ) > > Remove systemd and systemd-units ( rpm -e systemd systemd-units ) > > Reinstall systemd and systemd unit. > > reboot and

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/04/2010 06:05 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > This from an F13.x86> F14-Rawhide> F14-Branched Guest > (Host if F13.x86_64) > > Some still from the video: > > http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185144.php > > http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185343.php > > http://www.

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
This from an F13.x86 > F14-Rawhide > F14-Branched Guest (Host if F13.x86_64) Some still from the video: http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185144.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185343.php http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-040810-185650.php http://www.zi

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/08/10 16:41, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > Well, can you be more precise? Can you try this bodhi build? Just got my daughter to take a video of start up, so will try grab snaps from it and or upload somewhere. > > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dbus-1.3.2-0.1.885483.fc14,systemd-5

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 16:27, Frank Murphy (frankl...@gmail.com) wrote: > > On 04/08/10 16:08, Lennart Poettering wrote: > >>># systemctl enable graphical.target > >>> > >>> This makes sure the default.target link is created properly > >> > >> I still believe that for this particular one (and a few

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Frank Murphy
On 04/08/10 16:08, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>># systemctl enable graphical.target >>> >>> This makes sure the default.target link is created properly >> >> I still believe that for this particular one (and a few of the others) we >> should make the trivial changes to the spec to have it done

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 10:51, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: > > Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: > > And here's another addition: you might also want to run this command > > when upgrading from older rwahide to current F-14/rawhide: > > > > # systemctl enable graphical.

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-04 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) said: > And here's another addition: you might also want to run this command > when upgrading from older rwahide to current F-14/rawhide: > > # systemctl enable graphical.target > > This makes sure the default.target link is created properly I still b

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 02:40, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > On Wed, 04.08.10 00:10, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: > > Small addition. When I was referring to rawhide I meant both F-14 and > the new rawhide. i.e. both F-14 and F-15. And here's another additio

Re: [HEADS-UP] adding missing systemd links in rawhide/F14 upgrades

2010-08-03 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 04.08.10 00:10, Lennart Poettering (mzerq...@0pointer.de) wrote: Small addition. When I was referring to rawhide I meant both F-14 and the new rawhide. i.e. both F-14 and F-15. > Heya, > > just a little heads up for when you upgrade a rawhide system that is a > few weeks old to current