Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-12 Thread Karel Zak
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 02:41:25PM +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: > On 11/06/2013 05:43 AM, Jon wrote: > Right, release cycle will definitely be a hot topic, and i'd like us to Maybe too early, it's probably better to answer "what do you want to release" before you choice the right release cycle :-)

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-07 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 6:31 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > And with that conflict - resources to backport stuff or do updates (that's > the reason why we have so many updates - no resources to backport fixes, > more hope that upstream fixed it and it's regression free :D). Note that it's not strict

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2013 12:31 PM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > - Original Message - >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 11/06/2013 11:09 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: >>> On 11/06/2013 04:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP S

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/06/2013 11:09 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > > On 11/06/2013 04:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On 11/06/2013 09:57 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > >>> On

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2013 11:09 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > On 11/06/2013 04:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 11/06/2013 09:57 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >>> On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 15:38:10 +0100, Phil Knirs

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 11/06/2013 04:46 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2013 09:57 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 15:38:10 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: But i do like the idea of well "Overlap" releases? Where most of the release would stay st

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2013 09:57 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 15:38:10 +0100, Phil Knirsch > wrote: >> >> But i do like the idea of well "Overlap" releases? Where most of >> the release would stay stable in a sense of API/ABI and we could

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 15:38:10 +0100, Phil Knirsch wrote: But i do like the idea of well "Overlap" releases? Where most of the release would stay stable in a sense of API/ABI and we could still bring out a newer release. Since we have a system where multiple kernel types can be installe

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread drago01
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 3:38 PM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > On 11/06/2013 02:46 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: >> >> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: >>> >>> On 11/06/2013 05:43 AM, Jon wrote: Another item I'd like to consider for the initial discussion is the release cycle for

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 11/06/2013 02:46 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: On 11/06/2013 05:43 AM, Jon wrote: Another item I'd like to consider for the initial discussion is the release cycle for the base design. My feeling is that base is small enough and simple enough to a

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > > One request i also already got was if we in the Base WG could take a look > > at > > containers/sandboxes for applications as well. Basically so that the > > technology could be used by any derived product built on top of Base. And > > as > > there are currently mul

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Josh Boyer
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > On 11/06/2013 05:43 AM, Jon wrote: >> Another item I'd like to consider for the initial discussion is the >> release cycle for the base design. My feeling is that base is small >> enough and simple enough to allow a more frequent release, perha

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 11/06/2013 05:43 AM, Jon wrote: On Nov 4, 2013 12:01 PM, "Stephen Gallagher" mailto:sgall...@redhat.com>> wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/04/2013 11:07 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > A quick update from my side regarding the Base D

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Phil Knirsch
On 11/04/2013 07:01 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2013 11:07 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: Hi everyone. A quick update from my side regarding the Base Design WG: - My proposed committee was approved by FESCO last Wednesday. One negative vote cam

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-06 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
- Original Message - > Howdy folks. > > Looking forward to getting to work on base design. Regarding the voting > members I feel we have a great group. Everyone intersted (voting or not) > should participate in our discussions. My vote will certainly be influenced > by anyone in the commun

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-05 Thread Jon
On Nov 4, 2013 12:01 PM, "Stephen Gallagher" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 11/04/2013 11:07 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > > > A quick update from my side regarding the Base Design WG: > > > > - My proposed committee was approved by FESCO last Wedn

Re: [Fedora Base Design WG] Committee FESCO approved, next steps

2013-11-04 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/04/2013 11:07 AM, Phil Knirsch wrote: > Hi everyone. > > A quick update from my side regarding the Base Design WG: > > - My proposed committee was approved by FESCO last Wednesday. One > negative vote came from Stephen Gallagher that he would