Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-06-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jared K. Smith wrote: > I completely disagree... the checks and balances that are in place are > there for a reason, and aren't too difficult to satisfy in the case of a > security update. Completely repealing the requirements would be a gross > overreaction. Introducing the requirements was the

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-27 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/26/2015 06:22 PM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 15:33 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: On 05/26/2015 12:10 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: Something needs to be done, but I'm not sure exactly what. IMO, all this should not be a problem, if collaborative maintenance works. What I

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Tue, 2015-05-26 at 15:33 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 05/26/2015 12:10 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > > Something needs to be done, but I'm not sure > > exactly what. > > IMO, all this should not be a problem, if collaborative maintenance > works. > > What I mean, IMO, critical packages shou

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Gerald B. Cox
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 6:33 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > critical packages should have a sufficient number of co-maintainers, who > should be presumed to be sufficiently familiar with a package to provide > enough karma, which would allow such packages to pass quickly Good point... and for thos

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Oden Eriksson
Andrew Haley skrev den 2015-05-26 12:10: On 19/05/15 16:20, Kevin Kofler wrote: Martin Stransky wrote: is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla release which is re

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 26.05.2015 um 13:26 schrieb Jiri Eischmann: Reindl Harald píše v Út 19. 05. 2015 v 10:45 +0200: Am 19.05.2015 um 10:38 schrieb Martin Stransky: Hi guys, is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are r

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
We don't need to complicate things, whenever such critical updates come along, the maintainers can post a message here and in the users ml or even in the forum (somewhere it will be immediately visible). A template for a message detailing the bodhi-karma process, with links to the relevant page for

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Ralf Corsepius
On 05/26/2015 12:10 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: Something needs to be done, but I'm not sure exactly what. IMO, all this should not be a problem, if collaborative maintenance works. What I mean, IMO, critical packages should have a sufficient number of co-maintainers, who should be presumed to b

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Jiri Eischmann
Reindl Harald píše v Út 19. 05. 2015 v 10:45 +0200: > > Am 19.05.2015 um 10:38 schrieb Martin Stransky: > > Hi guys, > > > > is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security > > fixes by Fedora update system? > > > > For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after offi

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-26 Thread Andrew Haley
On 19/05/15 16:20, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Martin Stransky wrote: >> is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security >> fixes by Fedora update system? >> >> For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla >> release which is really bad. >> >> Any idea here

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Corey Sheldon
I totally agree with Jared, just becuase oyu don't see the logic doesn't mean it needs repealed. Corey W Sheldon Freelance IT Consultant, Multi-Discipline Tutor (p) 310.909.7672 G+: LinkedIn: Github:

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Jared K. Smith
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 8:20 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > The "update stability policies" enforced by Bodhi simply need to be > repealed. > I completely disagree... the checks and balances that are in place are there for a reason, and aren't too difficult to satisfy in the case of a security update

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Martin Stransky wrote: > is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security > fixes by Fedora update system? > > For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla > release which is really bad. > > Any idea here? The "update stability policies" enforced by

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Josh Boyer
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 9:24 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > On 05/19/2015 03:17 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: >> >> On 05/19/2015 04:12 AM, drago01 wrote: >>> >>> Why does it take so long? Most firefox uipdates get enough karma >>> before they end up in testing. >>> In that case they should be pick

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Martin Stransky
On 05/19/2015 11:12 AM, drago01 wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: Hi guys, is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla release which is

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Martin Stransky
On 05/19/2015 03:17 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote: On 05/19/2015 04:12 AM, drago01 wrote: Why does it take so long? Most firefox uipdates get enough karma before they end up in testing. In that case they should be picked up by the next push (which is still a manual process afaik; so no idea how

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 05/19/2015 04:12 AM, drago01 wrote: Why does it take so long? Most firefox uipdates get enough karma before they end up in testing. In that case they should be picked up by the next push (which is still a manual process afaik; so no idea how often it happens). Firefox 38.0 entered and exited

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread drago01
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Martin Stransky wrote: > Hi guys, > > is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by > Fedora update system? > > For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla > release which is really bad. > > Any idea here

Re: Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 19.05.2015 um 10:38 schrieb Martin Stransky: Hi guys, is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla release which is really bad. Any idea here? and that is *real

Rapid release for security updates

2015-05-19 Thread Martin Stransky
Hi guys, is there any mechanism how to speed up release of critical security fixes by Fedora update system? For instance Firefox packages are released *week* after official Mozilla release which is really bad. Any idea here? ma. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a