On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:43:15 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 21.8.2015 v 00:58 Orion Poplawski napsal(a):
> > My gut reaction to this is, my god, we don't need *more* packages in Fedora,
> > we need more people maintaining the pile we already have. So I'd like to
> > see
> > more packagers ad
2015-08-21 0:58 GMT+02:00 Orion Poplawski :
> On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>>
>> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors how hard
>> is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora
>> Repository stalled [1]; discussion that we actually do not know how many
>> a
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:54:58 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Your script output does not tell anything at all about activity of all
> > packagers in the package collection, in the normal review queue(s), in
> > pkgdb. No clues about number of orphaned/retired packages. No clues about
> > semi-dea
Am 21.08.2015 um 08:41 schrieb Aleksandar Kurtakov:
- Original Message -
From: "Orion Poplawski"
To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2015 1:58:35 AM
Subject: Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets
On
Dne 20.8.2015 v 13:42 Michael Schwendt napsal(a):
> Your script output does not tell anything at all about activity of all
> packagers in the package collection, in the normal review queue(s), in
> pkgdb. No clues about number of orphaned/retired packages. No clues about
> semi-dead packages where
Dne 21.8.2015 v 00:58 Orion Poplawski napsal(a):
> My gut reaction to this is, my god, we don't need *more* packages in Fedora,
> we need more people maintaining the pile we already have. So I'd like to see
> more packagers added as co-maintainers of packages.
Hmm,
so does it means that "becoming
- Original Message -
> From: "Orion Poplawski"
> To: "Development discussions related to Fedora"
>
> Sent: Friday, 21 August, 2015 1:58:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Sponsors - who does (not) work on FE-NEEDSPONSOR tickets
>
> On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM,
On 08/20/2015 02:50 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>
> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors how hard
> is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora
> Repository stalled [1]; discussion that we actually do not know how many
> active sponsors we have.
...
>
> [1]
> https://ei
On Thu, 20 Aug 2015 10:50:55 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors
> how hard is to get sponsored;
Yes, it's incredibly easy for Red Hat employees to get sponsored via
the "Become a co-maintainer" process:
https://fedoraproject.org/w
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 10:50 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > That said, I considering your ongoing campaign to be harmful to
> > Fedora.
>
> I'm really sad to hear this.
>
> I was just watching the ongoing reports of want-to-be-contributors
> how hard is to get sponsored; reports how Fedora
>
Dne 20.8.2015 v 08:57 Ralf Corsepius napsal(a):
> 5. You cannot push around sponsors.
> The ability to sponsor packagers is a privilege and not a duty. It's not
> going to fly to make a volunteer privilege a
> burdon.
I repeated several times in this thread that it is perfectly fine when there is
On 08/18/2015 12:04 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
BTW this report reveals that we have just 39 active sponsors (during past year).
If you are sponsors, please consider sponsoring somebody from the queue:
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html
You should understand that sp
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 09:14:34AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > I don't know if this has changed in he new age of having crazy human
> > coding machines, but the last time i looked it was extremely difficult
> > to see someone's sponsor and to generate statistics on sponsorship
> > activities.
On 08/19/2015 02:05 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
2015-08-15 9:13 GMT+02:00 Miroslav Suchý :
Recently we had discussion here about the queue of package reviews with
FE-NEEDSPONSOR flag.
I suggested to write some script which would query db and reveal those
sponsors who does not make his duty.
He
Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Recently we had discussion here about the queue of package reviews with
> FE-NEEDSPONSOR flag.
> I suggested to write some script which would query db and reveal those
> sponsors who does not make his duty.
>
> Here comes this script:
> https://github.com/xsuchy/guard-f
2015-08-15 9:13 GMT+02:00 Miroslav Suchý :
> Recently we had discussion here about the queue of package reviews with
> FE-NEEDSPONSOR flag.
> I suggested to write some script which would query db and reveal those
> sponsors who does not make his duty.
>
> Here comes this script:
>https://github
On Tue, 18 Aug 2015 12:55:37 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > Have you followed the How To Get Sponsored guidelines?
> ...
> > So what?
> >
> > I'm tired by such an attitude and by all complainers, who sit and wait
> > instead of showing a bit of activity and following the guidelines.
>
> Your a
Dne 17.8.2015 v 18:30 Michael Schwendt napsal(a):
> Have you followed the How To Get Sponsored guidelines?
...
> So what?
>
> I'm tired by such an attitude and by all complainers, who sit and wait
> instead of showing a bit of activity and following the guidelines.
Your attitude just discouraged
BTW this report reveals that we have just 39 active sponsors (during past year).
If you are sponsors, please consider sponsoring somebody from the queue:
http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/NEEDSPONSOR.html
Good start is to take some bug from top (or bottom) of
http://red.ht/1K3njkO
This is current output from my script with updates based on your comments:
Aurelien Bompard - no recent sponsor activity
Adrien Devresse - no recent sponsor activity
Adrian Reber - no recent sponsor activity
Alexander Kurtakov removed FE-NEEDSPONSOR from BZ 1190728
Alexander Kurtakov removed
On Monday, 17 August 2015 at 19:39, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:01:24 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
>
> > maybe you should have read the link below becaus ethen maybe you would
> > not accuse him "about his attitude" - there is a lot of activity and
> > fast respones - what el
Le 17 août 2015 8:47 AM, "Josh Boyer" a écrit :
>
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> > This is current output from my script with updates based on your
comments:
> > Axel Thimm - no recent sponsor activity
>
> Had his packages orphaned a while ago due to non-responsive ma
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 19:01:24 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:
> maybe you should have read the link below becaus ethen maybe you would
> not accuse him "about his attitude" - there is a lot of activity and
> fast respones - what else should he do?
>
> >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=
Am 17.08.2015 um 18:30 schrieb Michael Schwendt:
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:07:07 +0200, Marcin Haba wrote:
There may be a misunderstanding of the How To Get Sponsored Wiki page.
If everything works fine with sponsoring, so why does this subject
exist? It is not first thread here about sponsorin
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 17:07:07 +0200, Marcin Haba wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 17.08.2015 16:33, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:50:26 +0200, Marcin Haba wrote:
> >
> >> Yes, exactly! I am waiting from March 2015.
> >
> > Waiting for what?
>
> For sponsoring me by somebody.
Have yo
On 17.08.2015 17:40, Pete Travis wrote:
> On Aug 17, 2015 10:07 AM, "Marcin Haba" wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>
> *snip*
>
>> I am not going to continue this discussion because as I wrote in
>> previous mail, it was only feedback from my side. It is not my intention
>> to gain something by this feedback
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:55:46 +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> >> > Yes, exactly! I am waiting from March 2015.
> > Waiting for what?
>
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1203018
You've misunderstood the question. Hence that link isn't an answer.
Do you want me to link tickets where I'm
On Aug 17, 2015 10:07 AM, "Marcin Haba" wrote:
>
> Hello,
*snip*
> I am not going to continue this discussion because as I wrote in
> previous mail, it was only feedback from my side. It is not my intention
> to gain something by this feedback. It is just feedback to potential
> consideration if
Hello,
On 17.08.2015 16:33, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:50:26 +0200, Marcin Haba wrote:
>
>> Yes, exactly! I am waiting from March 2015.
>
> Waiting for what?
For sponsoring me by somebody. Please read context. And this thread
title either ;-)
> There may be a misunderstan
Dne 17.8.2015 v 16:33 Michael Schwendt napsal(a):
>> > Yes, exactly! I am waiting from March 2015.
> Waiting for what?
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1203018
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On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:48 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> Dne 17.8.2015 v 14:47 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
>>> I would recommend removing all of the above people from the sponsors group.
>>
>> -1
>> There is nothing wrong on being inactive. At least
I have used my sponsorship permissions in the past to mentor other Dell
employees, but have not had need to do so in quite a while. I have downgraded
my rights from sponsor to user, and will re-apply for sponsor status should the
need arise again in the future.
Thanks,
Matt
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On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 15:50:26 +0200, Marcin Haba wrote:
> Yes, exactly! I am waiting from March 2015.
Waiting for what?
There may be a misunderstanding of the How To Get Sponsored Wiki page.
> I am active in a few Fedora
> areas (informal reviews, bugs requests, preparing new features requests,
On 17.08.2015 15:18, Josh Boyer wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> Dne 17.8.2015 v 14:47 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
>>> I would recommend removing all of the above people from the sponsors group.
>>
>> -1
>> There is nothing wrong on being inactive. At least as long as o
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Dne 17.8.2015 v 14:47 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
>> I would recommend removing all of the above people from the sponsors group.
>
> -1
> There is nothing wrong on being inactive. At least as long as others are
> active.
> If they would want, the
On 08/17/2015 07:47 AM, Josh Boyer wrote:
David Woodhouse - no recent sponsor activity
Reports bugs but not otherwise active in Fedora to my knowledge.
He's still around. He actively maintains packages for SIPE support (Microsoft Lync /
Skype Business) in Pidgin.
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Dne 17.8.2015 v 14:47 Josh Boyer napsal(a):
> I would recommend removing all of the above people from the sponsors group.
-1
There is nothing wrong on being inactive. At least as long as others are active.
If they would want, they can return any time they want.
We should *not* be like turned down
On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 8:34 AM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> This is current output from my script with updates based on your comments:
> Axel Thimm - no recent sponsor activity
Had his packages orphaned a while ago due to non-responsive maintainer.
> Christopher Aillon (sabbatical, not receiving b
This is current output from my script with updates based on your comments:
Aurelien Bompard - no recent sponsor activity
Adrien Devresse - no recent sponsor activity
Adrian Reber - no recent sponsor activity
Alexander Kurtakov removed FE-NEEDSPONSOR from BZ 1190728
Alexander Kurtakov removed
Dne 15.8.2015 v 16:43 Till Maas napsal(a):
> I think the script should also consider comments to needsponsor bugs as
> sponsoring work, even if the bug was not yet assigned to someone.
Good idea, I will think about how to fetch this info.
> And
> IMHO the wording should be a little bit more frien
Dne 15.8.2015 v 20:09 Jason L Tibbitts III napsal(a):
> H> Using Bugzilla rather than FAS is not a bad idea, as some people
> H> abuse their sponsor status by blindly adding people into the packager
> H> group without any supervision. Using FAS as the information source
> H> would just hide this hi
Dne 15.8.2015 v 11:21 Christopher Meng napsal(a):
> And some people contributed a lot in the past, after this result will
> you request revoking their sponsorship and wipe them out?
NO!
There is really no pros if we revoke some sponsors. We just need them more
active. And we need more sponsors. (
2015-08-16 10:33 GMT-04:00 Kevin Fenzi :
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:02:05 -0400
> Haïkel wrote:
>
> ...snip...
>
>> Using Bugzilla rather than FAS is not a bad idea, as some people
>> abuse their sponsor status by blindly adding people into the packager
>> group without any supervision. Using FAS as
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 10:02:05 -0400
Haïkel wrote:
...snip...
> Using Bugzilla rather than FAS is not a bad idea, as some people
> abuse their sponsor status by blindly adding people into the packager
> group without any supervision. Using FAS as the information source
> would just hide this hideo
> "H" == Haïkel writes:
H> Using Bugzilla rather than FAS is not a bad idea, as some people
H> abuse their sponsor status by blindly adding people into the packager
H> group without any supervision. Using FAS as the information source
H> would just hide this hideous behaviour.
I don't know
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Parag Nemade wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
>> Recently we had discussion here about the queue of package reviews with
>> FE-NEEDSPONSOR flag.
>> I suggested to write some script which would query db and reveal those
>> sp
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 09:13:18AM +0200, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> It is first version and I'm sure there will be some false negatives. The
> current logic is:
> 1. query FAS to get all usernames from packager group who are sponsors
> 2. for each such user get all bugs from past 365 day for Package
Though it's always nice to read in the morning that you're a good guy,
I have few comments.
+ some people have been recently given the sponsor bit
+ some people do actively help our new packagers to
grow but it does not appear here
+ others have done a tremendous works as sponsors in the past
and
On 8/15/15, Pierre-Yves Chibon wrote:
>> Ricky Elrod
>> Chitlesh GOORAH
Sorry about the mistaken reply, I'm not sure about how many people
match the standard of inactive, perhaps another thread needed?
I agree we need to wipe off people carefully, but there must be a
standard about the wipe.
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On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 05:21:21PM +0800, Christopher Meng wrote:
> And some people contributed a lot in the past, after this result will
> you request revoking their sponsorship and wipe them out?
>
> My thought is some of these above can be dropped since they indeed no
> longer work in Fedora Pr
On 15/08/15 11:21, Christopher Meng wrote:
And some people contributed a lot in the past, after this result will
you request revoking their sponsorship and wipe them out?
My thought is some of these above can be dropped since they indeed no
longer work in Fedora Project, leaving the privilege to
And some people contributed a lot in the past, after this result will
you request revoking their sponsorship and wipe them out?
My thought is some of these above can be dropped since they indeed no
longer work in Fedora Project, leaving the privilege to them is
useless:
Ricky Elrod
Chitlesh GOOR
Hi,
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Miroslav Suchý wrote:
> Recently we had discussion here about the queue of package reviews with
> FE-NEEDSPONSOR flag.
> I suggested to write some script which would query db and reveal those
> sponsors who does not make his duty.
>
> Here comes this script:
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