Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-04-02 Thread Ty Young
On 4/2/20 2:30 PM, Kalev Lember wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:23 PM Ty Young > wrote: rpm-ostree first gave some error about fedora-release(31) and the RPMFusion repos. Why does Fedora not attempt to bump the RPMFusion repo version automatically?

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-04-02 Thread Kalev Lember
On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 9:23 PM Ty Young wrote: > rpm-ostree first gave some error about fedora-release(31) and the > RPMFusion repos. Why does Fedora not attempt to bump the RPMFusion repo > version automatically? > That's https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/1978 -- Kalev _

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-04-02 Thread Ty Young
On 3/30/20 3:37 AM, Daniel Smith wrote: You will likely need to reset any mutations you have performed $ rpm-ostree reset I decided to just download and install Fedora 31 and upgrade to Fedora 32 as I would as if I was using it(AKA installing Nvidia drivers). It was a bit rocky, to say t

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Fenzi
...snip... Perhaps you all could take this to the rpmfusion mailing lists? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedor

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-31 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 3:57 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > But ideally You seem to have a lot of thoughts about changes and improvements to the process. When should the RPMFusion community expect you to complete those improvements? ___ devel mailing l

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Leigh Scott wrote: > Your kmod idea is flawed, the new kernel builds will always be at > least 7 days behind fedora kernel. This is due to 2 pushes being required > to get the new akmods to stable repo, I haven't got enough time to do > more pushes (sign, mash and sync repo's). That also really c

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-31 Thread Leigh Scott
> Richard Shaw wrote: > > But how do akmods solve that? What will happen with the akmod if the kernel > breaks the build is that the akmod will fail to build on the user's machine! > How does that resolve the issue? IMHO, it makes it worse! > > Kevin Kofler I can guarantee akmod-nvidia

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Marius Schwarz wrote: > The precompiled kmod-nvidia packages where hell, because they sometimes > needed days to get online. > While people where waiting, the system did not boot into the newest > kernel as the needed driver was missing. DNF just needs to prevent the upgrade as long as the kmod is

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-31 Thread Kevin Kofler
Richard Shaw wrote: > Yes, some sort of automated solution would only work if the kernel stopped > breaking the builds so often, requiring manual intervention. Lately I've > gotten a new kernel on my Fedora 31 install almost every update. It's just > too much to deal with. RPM Fusion has a small fr

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 1:54 AM Marius Schwarz wrote: > Am 29.03.20 um 18:24 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > > > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those > just > > worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as > > proprietary drivers work to begin w

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Emmanuel Seyman
* Vitaly Zaitsev via devel [30/03/2020 12:42] : > > This is absolutely impossible. No proprietary software are allowed. I believe OP means that NVidia must provide a third-party repo for Fedora. Emmanuel ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproje

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 30.03.2020 10:45, Daniel Smith wrote: > The nvidia drivers need to be packaged for Fedora. This is absolutely impossible. No proprietary software are allowed. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lis

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Daniel Smith
> If the source code isn't being modified and no one wants to look after > it(which is 100% fine, not everything does, really), then why not just > ship it as-is from upstream? There is no "upstream" Nvidia packages for F32 (or even F31). The nvidia drivers need to be packaged for Fedora. If yo

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-30 Thread Daniel Smith
You will likely need to reset any mutations you have performed $ rpm-ostree reset ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproj

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Marius Schwarz
Am 29.03.20 um 18:24 schrieb Kevin Kofler: > > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those just > worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as > proprietary drivers work to begin with, but that was no fault of the kmod > packages.) So why and wh

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 3:01 PM, Ty Young wrote: On 3/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: "ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[10990]: Building /usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-440.64-2.fc33.src.rpm for kernel 5.6.0-0.rc7.git1.1.fc33.x86_64" You're using fc33 kernels which are Rawhide. You'll need to rebase down to F32

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 3:25 PM, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 22:20, Ty Young wrote: On 3/29/20 3:04 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 29.03.2020 18:24, Kevin Kofler wrote: RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those just worked. (Well,

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Leigh Scott wrote: > It will 4 years in July. > > https://pkgs.rpmfusion.org/cgit/nonfree/nvidia-kmod.git/commit/?id=52cadb0401a80d4c95563880f154d45506f18b9e For the record, you link only the nvidia-kmod change here, but the same change was also applied around the same time to all the other kmod

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 6:18 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > > I don't maintain an kmods, but from what I observe in the package > > commits, they break with each new Fedora kernel release and the > > maintenance burden is even higher for older nVidia driver vers

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote: > I don't maintain an kmods, but from what I observe in the package > commits, they break with each new Fedora kernel release and the > maintenance burden is even higher for older nVidia driver versions. > > You're welcome to help with automation, but I'm afrai

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Leigh Scott
> On 3/29/20 2:29 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: > > > OK, so why aren't they installing? Works fine here on normal fedora $ inxi -GCS System: Host: leigh Kernel: 5.6.0-0.rc7.git1.2.fc33.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Cinnamon 4.4.8 Distro: Fedora release 33 (Rawhide) CPU: Topology: 8-Core mo

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Leigh Scott
> Leigh Scott wrote: > > Since when? Why? Where was this discussed? It will 4 years in July. https://pkgs.rpmfusion.org/cgit/nonfree/nvidia-kmod.git/commit/?id=52cadb0401a80d4c95563880f154d45506f18b9e I believe there may have been a brief discussion between kwizart and me on IRC. They were drop

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski
On Sunday, 29 March 2020 at 22:20, Ty Young wrote: > > On 3/29/20 3:04 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: > > On 29.03.2020 18:24, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and > > > those just worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only > > > w

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 3:04 PM, Vitaly Zaitsev via devel wrote: On 29.03.2020 18:24, Kevin Kofler wrote: RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those just worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as proprietary drivers work to begin with, but that was no f

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Vitaly Zaitsev via devel
On 29.03.2020 18:24, Kevin Kofler wrote: > RPM Fusion used to provide compiled kmod packages for years, and those just > worked. (Well, for the proprietary ones, they only worked as well as > proprietary drivers work to begin with, but that was no fault of the kmod > packages.) So why and when d

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 2:55 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: "ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[10990]: Building /usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-440.64-2.fc33.src.rpm for kernel 5.6.0-0.rc7.git1.1.fc33.x86_64" You're using fc33 kernels which are Rawhide. You'll need to rebase down to F32 or F31. rpm-ostree rebase fedora/32/x

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Daniel Smith
"ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[10990]: Building /usr/src/akmods/nvidia-kmod-440.64-2.fc33.src.rpm for kernel 5.6.0-0.rc7.git1.1.fc33.x86_64" You're using fc33 kernels which are Rawhide. You'll need to rebase down to F32 or F31. rpm-ostree rebase fedora/32/x86_64/silverblue

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 2:29 PM, Daniel Smith wrote: Both F31 and F32 have non-debug kernels that work with the Nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Source: Using F32 Silverblue with the Nvidia akmods. OK, so why aren't they installing? ___ devel mailing list --

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Daniel Smith
kmod-nvidia and akmod-nvidia will do the same thing, kmod-nvidia is an empty package that pulls in akmod-nvidia. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Co

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Daniel Smith
Both F31 and F32 have non-debug kernels that work with the Nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Source: Using F32 Silverblue with the Nvidia akmods. ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to devel-le...@lists.fedo

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 1:32 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:31:13AM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:46:17 -, you wrote: Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused: rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia You need to use the nodebug kernel http

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 11:31:13AM -0400, Gerald Henriksen wrote: > On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:46:17 -, you wrote: > > >> Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused: > >> > >> > >> rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia > > > >You need to use the nodebug kernel > > > >https://fedo

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Kevin Kofler
Leigh Scott wrote: > We don't supply compiled kmod packages at rpmfusion, Since when? Why? Where was this discussed? A compiler has no business being on end users' systems. Fedora is not Gentoo. The akmod approach is flawed, independently of Silverblue etc. RPM Fusion used to provide compiled k

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Gerald Henriksen
On Sun, 29 Mar 2020 06:46:17 -, you wrote: >> Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused: >> >> >> rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia > >You need to use the nodebug kernel > >https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug > And just how wise is it putting Rawhide ker

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-29 Thread Ty Young
On 3/29/20 1:46 AM, Leigh Scott wrote: Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused: rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia You need to use the nodebug kernel https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug Wiki doesn't say how to install nondebug on Silverblue. How do yo

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 2:51 AM Leigh Scott wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:57 PM Ty Young > wrote: > > > You can use regular kmod packages with Fedora Silverblue (rpm-ostree > > install kmod-nvidia). You can also use regular Fedora Workstation and > > have akmods work perfectly. > > > >

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-28 Thread Leigh Scott
> On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:57 PM Ty Young You can use regular kmod packages with Fedora Silverblue (rpm-ostree > install kmod-nvidia). You can also use regular Fedora Workstation and > have akmods work perfectly. > We don't supply compiled kmod packages at rpmfusion, using akmod-nvidia is the

RE: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-28 Thread Leigh Scott
> Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod, got them confused: > > > rpm-ostree install kmod-nvidia xorg-x11-drv-nvidia You need to use the nodebug kernel https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/RawhideKernelNodebug > rpm-ostree(akmod-nvidia.post)[16484]: FATAL: modpost: GPL-incompatible > module nvidia-drm.ko uses

RE: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-28 Thread Ty Young
>Interesting. I’ve used Fedora 30 Silverblue before and it worked(yes, using >AKMod). Maybe this is a >regression? >Anyway, when I looked up the error I got a result from Nvidia’s forum wherein >a user pointed to a >kernel issue. Apologies if that isn’t the case. Wait, nevermind. It’s kmod,

RE: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-28 Thread Ty Young
>Okay, no. This is actually a fundamental technical flaw with >RPM-OSTree. In fact, *zero* DKMS or AKMod based packages will work >with RPM-OSTree based systems, and has been known for at least three >years: https://github.com/coreos/rpm-ostree/issues/1091 >It has nothing to do with any ideologica

Re: Nvidia binary drivers fail to install on Fedora 32

2020-03-28 Thread Neal Gompa
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 11:57 PM Ty Young wrote: > > Either no one is testing Fedora 32 on Nvidia hardware or Fedora has > entered an entirely new level of salt. Attempting to install from > RPMFusion results in: > > [snip error spew from rpm-ostree] > > No issues with Arch Linux. The driver is