Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-29 Thread Stijn Hoop
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 17:31:33 -0500 James Antill wrote: > On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:04 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-29 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Monday 28 of January 2013 10:12:29 Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon 28 Jan 2013 09:43:56 AM EST, Jan Zelený wrote: > > On 28. 1. 2013 at 08:21:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> On

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, January 28, 2013 17:42:16 James Antill wrote: > On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:53 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, > > > > > > Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > >I have been always wondering

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 13:53 -0500, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, > > Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > > > >I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to > > >manipulate groups o

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 08:21 -0500, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > This doesn't really seem like the optimal solution here. It seems to > me that it might be a better solution that you note which "groups" > were installed and then at 'yum group remove foo' you remove any > packages in it that are not A

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread James Antill
On Mon, 2013-01-28 at 15:04 +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > I don't have an immediate better suggestion, but with my Fedora "en

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, January 28, 2013 11:58:00 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:50 +0100 > > Kamil Dudka wrote: > > On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:26:01 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, > > > > > >Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > >I have been always wondering

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 28 Jan 2013 19:49:50 +0100 Kamil Dudka wrote: > On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:26:01 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, > > > >Kamil Dudka wrote: > > >I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of > > >commands to manipulate groups of pa

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 10:26:01AM -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, > Kamil Dudka wrote: > > > >I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to > >manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just > >packages t

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday, January 28, 2013 10:26:01 Bruno Wolff III wrote: > On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, > >Kamil Dudka wrote: > >I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to > >manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just > >packages that i

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 16:52:18 +0100, Kamil Dudka wrote: I have been always wondering why yum needs a special set of commands to manipulate groups of packages. What would be the downside of using just packages that install no files (a.k.a. meta-packages) instead of groups? Removing meta

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Kamil Dudka
On Monday 28 January 2013 13:58:56 Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > Feature owner(s): James Antill > > Change the default yum configuration from group_command=compat to > group_command=objects. I have been

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon 28 Jan 2013 09:43:56 AM EST, Jan Zelený wrote: > On 28. 1. 2013 at 08:21:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01/28/2013 07:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: >>> = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = >>

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 12:58:56PM +, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects I don't have an immediate better suggestion, but with my Fedora "end user" hat on "Yum groups as objects" is essentially meaningless as a

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Jan Zelený
On 28. 1. 2013 at 08:21:57, Stephen Gallagher wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01/28/2013 07:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > > > Feature owner(s): James Antill > >

Re: Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Stephen Gallagher
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/28/2013 07:58 AM, Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > = Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects > > Feature owner(s): James Antill > > Change the default yum configuration from group_command=compat to

Proposed F19 Feature: Yum Groups as Objects

2013-01-28 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
= Features/YumGroupsAsObjects = https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/YumGroupsAsObjects Feature owner(s): James Antill Change the default yum configuration from group_command=compat to group_command=objects. == Detailed description == Currently yum groups work as a simple substitution, so