Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On 8/11/15, Jens-Ulrik Petersen wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Do you think this is the way how regular users install software? > > I think a lot of people install yum groups. It is a pretty useful > functionality IMO. > > If meta-packages become a viable replace

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 8:39 PM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Do you think this is the way how regular users install software? I think a lot of people install yum groups. It is a pretty useful functionality IMO. If meta-packages become a viable replacement for comps then we can seriously discuss removi

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 11:46 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote: > this thread, comps has things such as the (still mysterious to me) > environment groups, Environment groups are, quite simply, groups of groups. That's the entirety of the matter. They have a 'grouplist' of member groups that are basical

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On July 29, 2015 2:06:52 PM PDT, "Richard W.M. Jones" < rjo...@redhat.com> wrote: > On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:45:57AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > ocaml > > The comps.xml group for ocaml is pretty weird. It has some mandatory > base packages, which are OK-ish (although there are some notable on

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Wed, 29 Jul, 2015 at 21:06:52 GMT, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > I've never used comps.xml and don't really know what it is good for, > except I know of the existence of some graphical tools which consume > it. Richard Hughes's appdata seems like a more complete concept for > people that want tha

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 10:45:57AM +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > ocaml The comps.xml group for ocaml is pretty weird. It has some mandatory base packages, which are OK-ish (although there are some notable ones missing such as ocaml-camlp4-devel and ocaml-labltk-devel). Then it has a strange set of

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 10:13 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but > I see the comps just as an ugly workaround for mi

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

Vít Ondruch wrote: > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but I > see the comps just as an ugly workaround for missing weak dependencies, > which we have now. Since your proposal to drop comps is based on a

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

Dne 15.7.2015 v 13:11 Martin Kolman napsal(a): > On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 12:53 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Dne 15.7.2015 v 12:21 Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): >>> On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 10:51 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/15/2015 10:20 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > >>> Description and Summa

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 12:53 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 15.7.2015 v 12:21 Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): > > On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 10:51 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > > > > On 07/15/2015 10:20 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Description and Summary can be localized in .spec file [1], >

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

Dne 15.7.2015 v 12:21 Mathieu Bridon napsal(a): > On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 10:51 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> > On 07/15/2015 10:20 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> > >>> > > Description and Summary can be localized in .spec file [1], where >>> > > supposedly "names" in comps terminology refers to "summa

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

-- Mathieu On Wed, 2015-07-15 at 10:51 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On 07/15/2015 10:20 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > > Description and Summary can be localized in .spec file [1], where > > supposedly "names" in comps terminology refers to "summary" in > > .spec > > terminology. Including transl

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On 07/15/2015 10:20 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: Description and Summary can be localized in .spec file [1], where supposedly "names" in comps terminology refers to "summary" in .spec terminology. Including translations is encouraged in guidelines as well [2, 3], unfortunately without any further deta

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

Dne 14.7.2015 v 19:05 Kevin Fenzi napsal(a): > On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:53:49 +0200 > Vít Ondruch wrote: > > ...snip... > >>> * The comps.xml groups also provide grouping for >>> logically-connected packages that do not map to weak dependencies >>> well. (For example: an "astronomy" group could pul

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

Dne 14.7.2015 v 22:22 Oron Peled napsal(a): > On Tuesday 14 July 2015 10:13:43 Vít Ondruch wrote: >> Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down >> significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but I >> see the comps just as an ugly workaround for missing weak de

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Tuesday 14 July 2015 10:13:43 Vít Ondruch wrote: > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but I > see the comps just as an ugly workaround for missing weak dependencies, > which we have now. With all its ug

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:53:49 +0200 Vít Ondruch wrote: ...snip... > > * The comps.xml groups also provide grouping for > > logically-connected packages that do not map to weak dependencies > > well. (For example: an "astronomy" group could pull in numerous > > scientific packages related to astr

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Dne 14.7.2015 v 15:21 Stephen Gallagher napsal(a): > On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 10:13 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: >> >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA256 >> >> Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down >> significantly)?

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Tue, 2015-07-14 at 10:13 +0200, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but > I see the comps just as an ugly workaround for mi

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 6:23 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > Dne 14.7.2015 v 11:49 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Vít Ondruch >wrote: > > > > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

Dne 14.7.2015 v 11:49 Neal Gompa napsal(a): > On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Vít Ondruch >wrote: > > > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but > I see the comps just as an ugly

Re: Proposal: Drop comps

On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 4:13 AM, Vít Ondruch wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA256 > > Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down > significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but I see > the comps just as an ugly workaround for missin

Proposal: Drop comps

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Can we just drop comps entirely (or at least trim them down significantly)? I know that this will not happen from day to day, but I see the comps just as an ugly workaround for missing weak dependencies, which we have now. Vít Dne 10.7.2015 v