Re: Problems debugging problems... formerly Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-25 Thread Jonathan Wakely
On 24/01/18 15:06 -0700, stan wrote: On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:37:30 -0500 Przemek Klosowski wrote: For instance, I observed a reliable desktop session crash on exiting Pan newsreader. I don't know how to debug it because it crashes the session and I get logged out. I think this is because the

Re: Problems debugging problems... formerly Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-24 Thread stan
On Wed, 24 Jan 2018 14:37:30 -0500 Przemek Klosowski wrote: > For instance, I observed a reliable desktop session crash on exiting > Pan newsreader. I don't know how to debug it because it crashes the > session and I get logged out. I think this is because the C++ used in Pan is incompatible wit

Re: Problems debugging problems... formerly Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-24 Thread mcatanzaro
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:37 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: Can anyone suggest ways of debugging this? Run coredumpctl to see what processes crashed. There should be at least a gnome-shell crash, maybe also a gnome-session crash, maybe also an XWayland crash. Usually only the gnome-shell and g

Problems debugging problems... formerly Re: Wyland is a disaster

2018-01-24 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 01/21/2018 07:23 AM, Tom Hughes wrote: Not really. It's a grab bag of different things that may or not be related to Wayland. I think this problem is compounded by the fact that Wayland and several other system features such as Gnome session setup are very integrated, and it's hard to debu