Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-11-05 Thread Christian Stadelmann
> The UID can actually matter. We have a frequently reported non-bug that > graphical KDE applications will not work (and abort with a qFatal, which > fires the SIGABRT signal) if you run them under tools like su or sudo > because they won't find some resources (usually the D-Bus session service

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-11-04 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christian Stadelmann wrote: > Answers from my (user and frequent bug reporter) view: > 1. abrt/libreport reports way too much data. There is no need to report my > hostname to Fedora/RedHat infrastructure. Same for UID, PID, username, > time, environ, … The UID can actually matter. We have a frequ

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-11-01 Thread Christian Stadelmann
Answers from my (user and frequent bug reporter) view: 1. abrt/libreport reports way too much data. There is no need to report my hostname to Fedora/RedHat infrastructure. Same for UID, PID, username, time, environ, … 2. abrt/libreport leaks much sensitive data. This includes paths in my home di

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-31 Thread Jakub Filak
On 10/24/2016 06:34 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 18:07 +0200, Jakub Filak wrote: >> I use ABRT to report crashes, I deal with ABRT reports and I'm happy >> with >> the current default. >> >> I am sorry. I understand your problem, but I don't have any good >> solution >> for

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-25 Thread Jeff Fearn
On 25/10/16 22:49, den...@ausil.us wrote: > There has never been any policy against private bugs, and it's been > encouraged for security sensitive bugs from day 1. There is a lot of Red Hat > employees who default to private bugs FYI The warn on public create customization has been dropped from

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-25 Thread dennis
There has never been any policy against private bugs, and it's been encouraged for security sensitive bugs from day 1. There is a lot of Red Hat employees who default to private bugs or private comments due to working mostly on internal bugs. A nice rfe might be to enable the ability to default

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-25 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jakub Filak wrote: > I will repeat my argument again - users are allowed to do it when filling > a private bug manually. My point is, they shouldn't be. Kevin Kofler ___ devel mailing list -- devel@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Jakub Filak
On 10/25/2016 03:54 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Even without this written down anywhere, it used to be common understanding > that Fedora bugs are public by design. But then came the ABRT team. Now we > get tons of "private" bug reports. Mostly because ABRT lets users attach > tons of crazy thi

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Kevin Kofler
Florian Weimer wrote: > Why does Bugzilla allow filing private Fedora bugs? I am fairly sure that there used to be (in the distant past) a policy written down somewhere that "All Fedora bugs are public". The problem is that, after ABRT started filing those private bugs, I searched for it in all

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Jeff Fearn
On 25/10/16 02:41, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 10/21/2016 09:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keeping sensitive stuff >> >> Really? Every Bugzilla that I regularly work with (GNOME, WebKit, Red >

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/21/2016 09:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keeping sensitive stuff Really? Every Bugzilla that I regularly work with (GNOME, WebKit, Red Hat) has this feature. They have private bug repor

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Mon, 2016-10-24 at 18:07 +0200, Jakub Filak wrote: > I use ABRT to report crashes, I deal with ABRT reports and I'm happy > with > the current default. > > I am sorry. I understand your problem, but I don't have any good > solution > for it. > > Could you please propose a better default? The

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Jakub Filak
On 10/21/2016 09:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keeping sensitive stuff > > Now, ABRT's heuristic for whether to make the bug private is really > terrible; you can imagine that any application

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-24 Thread Jakub Filak
On 10/21/2016 11:29 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro > wrote: >> On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >>> Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keeping sensitive stuff >> >> Really? Every Bugzilla that I regularly work with (GNOM

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-22 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 22 October 2016 at 01:31, Jeff Fearn wrote: > On 22/10/2016 4:54 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: >> On 10/21/2016 08:42 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >>> We don't run the Bugzilla so the capability of who has it and who does >>> not is not set by us. >> >> Bugzilla's group-based restrictions can be

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Jeff Fearn
On 22/10/2016 4:54 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: > On 10/21/2016 08:42 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: >> We don't run the Bugzilla so the capability of who has it and who does >> not is not set by us. > > Bugzilla's group-based restrictions can be configured per product, so > it's easy to ask for chan

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 15:29 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Does it makes sense to have something sanitize URLs and paths that > start with /home by default? Seems like a scalpel vs backhoe is > needed. Maybe... I dunno, sometimes the actual value really is important for reproducing the bug. It at le

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keeping sensitive stuff > > Really? Every Bugzilla that I regularly work with (GNOME, WebKit, Red > Hat) has this feature. If you have a

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:56 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keeping sensitive stuff Really? Every Bugzilla that I regularly work with (GNOME, WebKit, Red Hat) has this feature. If you have a mailing list auto-CCed to a component, well yeah that screws it up

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/21/2016 08:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:25 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: Why does Bugzilla allow filing private Fedora bugs? One major reason is for abrt reports; the data abrt submits can include sensitive stuff. Bugzilla is specifically not designed for keep

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Florian Weimer
On 10/21/2016 08:42 PM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: We don't run the Bugzilla so the capability of who has it and who does not is not set by us. Bugzilla's group-based restrictions can be configured per product, so it's easy to ask for changes if this is what we want. It doesn't even need cu

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Christopher
On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:44 PM Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > On 21 October 2016 at 14:25, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Why does Bugzilla allow filing private Fedora bugs? > > > > Because people believe they are posting private information from their > systems which they do not want to have broad d

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2016-10-21 at 20:25 +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > Why does Bugzilla allow filing private Fedora bugs? > > I'm not sure who has the capability (it may be tied to specific > accounts). It is not all that helpful because accounts on the Cc: list > still receive notifications and can acces

Re: Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On 21 October 2016 at 14:25, Florian Weimer wrote: > Why does Bugzilla allow filing private Fedora bugs? > Because people believe they are posting private information from their systems which they do not want to have broad dissemination. There are many times where Fedora bugs were part of Red Hat

Private Bugzilla bugs

2016-10-21 Thread Florian Weimer
Why does Bugzilla allow filing private Fedora bugs? I'm not sure who has the capability (it may be tied to specific accounts). It is not all that helpful because accounts on the Cc: list still receive notifications and can access the bug. Recipients of the notifications may include public ma