On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 08:51:15AM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > As you know, I want to go the other way. I want to bring Fedora
> > improvements to Fedora packages built for EL _more quickly_. That may
> > not be possible with EL7 and certainly not with EL6, but let's not
> > close ourselves off
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 08:53:17AM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
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> On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 00:51 +, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
> > Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> >
> > > […]
> > > > I was not fully aware of this and I've personally hit this difficulty
>
On 20/01/18 05:08, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said:
>> I don't see any modern scripting language where a leading 0 would lead
>> to interpreting a number as octal.
>
> I suggest you check again; I don't see any where a leading 0 does NOT
> lead to interpreting a numb
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 12:08 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
> Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said:
>> I don't see any modern scripting language where a leading 0 would lead
>> to interpreting a number as octal.
>
> I suggest you check again; I don't see any where a leading 0 does NOT
> lead to inte
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On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 00:51 +, Tim Landscheidt wrote:
> Igor Gnatenko wrote:
>
> > […]
> > > I was not fully aware of this and I've personally hit this difficulty
> > > not on my proposal of the remove hicolor icon caches but on proposing,
> >
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On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 13:51 -0500, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 06:37:09PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > Within Fedora, those conditionals are not happening that often.. But
> > I would really love to see better separation of Fed
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On Sat, 2018-01-20 at 00:39 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 18:37 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 11:22 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Igor Gnatenko <
> > > ignatenkobr...@f
Once upon a time, Nico Kadel-Garcia said:
> I don't see any modern scripting language where a leading 0 would lead
> to interpreting a number as octal.
I suggest you check again; I don't see any where a leading 0 does NOT
lead to interpreting a number as octal Here are a few common scripting
lan
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:01 AM, J. Randall Owens
wrote:
> I'm not even the best at bash, much less the scripting in spec files,
> but is it possible this would be a problem because e.g. Fedora 26 would
> be evaluated as 026, which would evaluate as octal, and therefore the
> conditional evaluate
Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> […]
>> I was not fully aware of this and I've personally hit this difficulty
>> not on my proposal of the remove hicolor icon caches but on proposing,
>> for example, OpenIPMI or readline changes.
>> Most of my changes were by those packages maintainers simple discarded
>>
On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 20:17 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and
> creating
> conditionals for all packages which have epel branch).
First many thanks, if we have an wiki page is that info (conditionals
for all packages which h
On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 18:37 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 11:22 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Igor Gnatenko <
> > ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> > > I think real problem here is that people want same spec to build
> > > every
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 06:37:09PM +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> Within Fedora, those conditionals are not happening that often.. But
> I would really love to see better separation of Fedora and EPEL.
> Because EPEL **slows down improvements of Fedora**.
As you know, I want to go the other way. I
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 12:22 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Igor Gnatenko
> wrote:
>>
>> I think real problem here is that people want same spec to build
>> everywhere.
>> And we are not able to teach people to not do this. Only way how we can
>> teach
>> them is to
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On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 11:22 -0600, Richard Shaw wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Igor Gnatenko <
> ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
> > I think real problem here is that people want same spec to build
> > everywhere.
> > And we a
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Igor Gnatenko <
ignatenkobr...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
> I think real problem here is that people want same spec to build
> everywhere.
> And we are not able to teach people to not do this. Only way how we can
> teach
> them is to make it impossible (e.g. deny p
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On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 16:37 +, Tomasz Kłoczko wrote:
> I think that problem is somewhere else and it is IMO fundamental problem.
>
> Everything hangs on one simple fact that master branch of the Fedora
> packages is used now to build packages fr
I think that problem is somewhere else and it is IMO fundamental problem.
Everything hangs on one simple fact that master branch of the Fedora
packages is used now to build packages from the other Fedora-based
distributions.
It would be b*dy easy remove all icons caches updates if other
distributi
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On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 14:01 +, J. Randall Owens wrote:
> On 18/01/18 19:45, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 20:17 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (an
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 9:01 AM, J. Randall Owens
wrote:
> On 18/01/18 19:45, Sérgio Basto wrote:
>> On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 20:17 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and
>>> creating
>>> conditionals for all packages which hav
On 18/01/18 19:45, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 20:17 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and
>> creating
>> conditionals for all packages which have epel branch).
>
>> Unfortunately some maintainers adding them b
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 8:51 AM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 07:53 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
>> Should the scriptlets be removed only in rawhide, or can I apply the
>> changes in F26 and F27?
>
> They can be removed for all supported Fedora.
Thanks, the recent thread on
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On Fri, 2018-01-19 at 07:53 +0100, Alexander Ploumistos wrote:
> Hello Igor,
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Igor Gnatenko
> wrote:
> > I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and creating
> > conditionals for all package
Hello Igor,
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 8:17 PM, Igor Gnatenko
wrote:
> I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and creating
> conditionals for all packages which have epel branch).
Should the scriptlets be removed only in rawhide, or can I apply the
changes in F26 and F27?
Re
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On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 19:45 +, Sérgio Basto wrote:
> On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 20:17 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and
> > creating
> > conditionals for all packages whic
On Thu, 2018-01-18 at 20:17 +0100, Igor Gnatenko wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and
> creating
> conditionals for all packages which have epel branch).
> Unfortunately some maintainers adding them back with conditionals
> like:
> %if 0%{?fedora}
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Hello,
I'm working on removing all this cruft from all our packages (and creating
conditionals for all packages which have epel branch).
Unfortunately some maintainers adding them back with conditionals like:
%if 0%{?fedora} < 28 || 0%{?rhel} < 8
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