Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Thu, 11 Dec 2014 17:46:18 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > You can use the server netinst iso the same as a generic netinst. > But it looks like you'll have to get the packages over the network. > There's no iso with packages on it. So either mirror the packages > you need or download them during i

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 12/11/2014 04:45 PM, Andrew Clayton wrote: My usual way for updating/installing was to download the netinst and DVD install images. Then with netinst, install using the DVD image over NFS. I guess that's now out the window? What would be the nearest equivalent thing? You can use the server

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Andrew Clayton
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:37:54 +0100, Michael Catanzaro wrote: > On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > > Workstation isn't suitable; they > > aren't developers (yet). Server and Cloud are definitely right out. > > I don't want a Live CD; I want to actually install. (In the past,

Re: CSS on getfedora.org (was: Other download options)

2014-12-11 Thread Felix Miata
Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 11:44 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata composed: >> [ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] >> Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): >>> Felix Miata composed: Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a legible stat

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Ankur Sinha
Hi Alexander. On Thu, 2014-12-11 at 08:21 +0200, Alexander Ploumistos wrote: > Sorry to cut in, but whom can I contact about localization issues with > the getfedora.org website? Please contact the websites team via their mailing list or trac instance: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/lis

Re: Other download options

2014-12-11 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Felix Miata: [ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): Felix Miata composed: Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a legible state belies "polished, easy to use". no need to zoo

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Alexander Ploumistos
Sorry to cut in, but whom can I contact about localization issues with the getfedora.org website? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
[ re: https://getfedora.org/ ] Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-11 01:06 (UTC+0100): > Felix Miata composed: >> Actions speak louder than words. The need to zoom 3X-6X to reach legible a >> legible state belies "polished, easy to use". > no need to zoom anything and as said my eyes are really

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
uhm - wrong screenshot in previous message :-( Am 11.12.2014 um 01:06 schrieb Reindl Harald: Am 11.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb Felix Miata: Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that "other" download options besides LIVE

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 11.12.2014 um 00:58 schrieb Felix Miata: Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): Maros Zatko composed: I've noticed that "other" download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-L

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Michael Catanzaro composed on 2014-12-10 18:37 (UTC+0100): > On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: >> I guess I could go with one of the spins, but I >> don't see a GNOME spin anywhere. Is there really no DVD image for a >> generic GNOME desktop install? > This would be redundan

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Felix Miata
Reindl Harald composed on 2014-12-10 13:54 (UTC+0100): > Maros Zatko composed: >> I've noticed that "other" download options besides LIVE images are now gone >> from the website. >> Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image link

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > Primarily the uncertainty of what changes the Workstation WG has made, > coupled with Matthew Miller's comments that: > > > > I also don't know whether Workstation updates will pull in other similarly > bad ideas in the future, and whether

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47:20PM -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > As best I can tell from Matthew Miller's responses there, Fedora has > abandoned that portion of its previous user base that was using > Fedora as a general, secure by default, Gnome desktop OS. That's _very much_ not what I sa

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Pete Travis
On Dec 10, 2014 10:47 AM, "Mike Pinkerton" wrote: > > > On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote: > >> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko wrote: >>> >>> Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as >>> Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pret

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 13:19 -0500, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > Primarily the uncertainty of what changes the Workstation WG has > made, coupled with Matthew Miller's comments that: > > "Right now, 'desktop system with a security focus for new users' > isn't a key part of that effort. ... So, if yo

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Dec 2014, at 12:52, Ben Cotton wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to support general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative types and others who have heretofore been using Fe

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:47 PM, Mike Pinkerton wrote: > I also am trying to figure out how I can use Fedora going forward to support > general desktop requirements for SMB office workers, creative types and > others who have heretofore been using Fedora as a general, secure by > default, Gnome d

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Mike Pinkerton
On 10 Dec 2014, at 11:52, Jerry James wrote: On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko wrote: Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :) I'm getting kind of confused myself. I want

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Wed, 10 Dec 2014 09:52:05 -0700 Jerry James wrote: > On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko > wrote: > > Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not > > the same as Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty > > confused now :) > > I'm getting kind of con

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Michael Catanzaro
On Wed, 2014-12-10 at 09:52 -0700, Jerry James wrote: > Workstation isn't suitable; they > aren't developers (yet). Server and Cloud are definitely right out. > I don't want a Live CD; I want to actually install. (In the past, > installing from a Live CD left one with different defaults than an >

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Jerry James
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Maros Zatko wrote: > Yes, there is netinstall in the Server variant, I suppose it's not the same as > Workstation one and (as a user) I'm getting pretty confused now :) I'm getting kind of confused myself. I want to grab an image to throw onto an old machine for

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Vít Ondruch
Dne 10.12.2014 v 14:38 Maros Zatko napsal(a): >> From: "Reindl Harald" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29:09 PM >> Subject: Re: Other download options >> >> >> Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Z

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread drago01
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:27 PM, Maros Zatko wrote: >> From: "Reindl Harald" >> To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org >> Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54:29 PM >> Subject: Re: Other download options >> >> >> Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb M

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
> From: "Reindl Harald" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 2:29:09 PM > Subject: Re: Other download options > > > Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: > >> From: "Reindl Harald" > >> Am

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 14:27 schrieb Maros Zatko: From: "Reindl Harald" Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that "other" download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
> From: "Reindl Harald" > To: devel@lists.fedoraproject.org > Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 1:54:29 PM > Subject: Re: Other download options > > > Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: > > Hi everyone, > > > > I've noticed tha

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Nikos Roussos
Speaking of F21 downloads, how is that the fedoraproject.org redirects to getfedora.org? Is this something permanent? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel Fedora Code of Co

Re: Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.12.2014 um 13:43 schrieb Maros Zatko: Hi everyone, I've noticed that "other" download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably intentiona

Other download options

2014-12-10 Thread Maros Zatko
Hi everyone, I've noticed that "other" download options besides LIVE images are now gone from the website. Can you please explain how should (normal) user find non-LIVE image links there? I know this has been (probably intentionally) obfuscated before. Please put it back, even a