Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-21 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On 03/17/2011 06:17 PM, Nicola Soranzo wrote: > Alle giovedì 17 marzo 2011, Richard Hughes ha scritto: >> On 16 March 2011 17:16, Michel Alexandre Salim >> >> wrote: >>> I wonder why gimp depends on hal directly. For scanner, perhaps? >> >> It was for tablet support, but the code could never have

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-17 Thread Nicola Soranzo
Alle giovedì 17 marzo 2011, Richard Hughes ha scritto: > On 16 March 2011 17:16, Michel Alexandre Salim > > wrote: > > I wonder why gimp depends on hal directly. For scanner, perhaps? > > It was for tablet support, but the code could never have worked. We've > dropped the hal and gnome-vfs2 deps

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-17 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Thu, 2011-03-17 at 10:16 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > On 16 March 2011 17:16, Michel Alexandre Salim > wrote: > > I wonder why gimp depends on hal directly. For scanner, perhaps? > > It was for tablet support, but the code could never have worked. We've > dropped the hal and gnome-vfs2 deps

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-17 Thread Richard Hughes
On 16 March 2011 17:16, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: > I wonder why gimp depends on hal directly. For scanner, perhaps? It was for tablet support, but the code could never have worked. We've dropped the hal and gnome-vfs2 deps from gimp in rawhide now. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@list

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-17 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Wednesday, March 16, 2011 06:36:53 pm Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 12:42 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > > I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and > > retire them in rawhide. > > > > HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2011-03-15 at 12:42 +, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and > retire them in rawhide. > > HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has > moved into udev, and the u* daemons like upower, udisks and urfkill. >

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Michel Alexandre Salim
On 03/15/2011 09:30 PM, Andy Lawrence wrote: > More packages using/tagged for hal-libs? Or perhaps just dependencies that > will need to be fixed. > > Removing: > hal-libs > Removing for dependencies: .. > gimp .. I wonder why gimp depends on hal directly. For scanner, perhaps? openSUSE seems

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 16:28 +0100, Nicola Soranzo wrote: > Alle mercoledì 16 marzo 2011, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > > On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:50 +0100, Nicola Soranzo wrote: > > > See also the Feature page: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/HalRemoval > > > > > > I have been

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Nicola Soranzo
Alle mercoledì 16 marzo 2011, Matthias Clasen ha scritto: > On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:50 +0100, Nicola Soranzo wrote: > > See also the Feature page: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/HalRemoval > > > > I have been updating the dependency list there for almost a year. > > Wow, you've

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Wed, 2011-03-16 at 15:50 +0100, Nicola Soranzo wrote: > See also the Feature page: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/HalRemoval > > I have been updating the dependency list there for almost a year. Wow, you've done a nice job there, thanks for keeping that uptodate. I think for F1

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Nicola Soranzo
Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and > retire them in rawhide. > > HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has > moved into udev, and the u* daemons like upower, udisks and urfkill. > The original maintainer and most of

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Hughes
On 16 March 2011 03:12, Peter Robinson wrote: > That package is obsolete anyway as well so the apps should be > migrating away, I doubt that will be for F-15. Agreed. I think it's also sane to retire gnome-vfs2 for F16 too. Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://a

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > Andy Lawrence (dr.die...@gmail.com) said: >> More packages using/tagged for hal-libs?  Or perhaps just dependencies that >> will need to be fixed. > > This is a cascade via gnome-vfs2; most all of these don't require HAL > directly. That p

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Robert Relyea
On 03/15/2011 01:30 PM, Andy Lawrence wrote: > More packages using/tagged for hal-libs? Or perhaps just dependencies > that will need to be fixed. > > > coolkey Coolkey depends on pcsc-lite (see below). > pcsc-lite > pcsc-lite-ccid Kalev just fixed these two in rawhide by updating to 1.7.0 >

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Bill Nottingham
Andy Lawrence (dr.die...@gmail.com) said: > More packages using/tagged for hal-libs? Or perhaps just dependencies that > will need to be fixed. This is a cascade via gnome-vfs2; most all of these don't require HAL directly. Bill -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Andy Lawrence
More packages using/tagged for hal-libs? Or perhaps just dependencies that will need to be fixed. Removing: hal-libs Removing for dependencies: at-spi-python coolkey dia eclipse-jdt eclipse-pde eclipse-platform eclipse-rcp eclipse-swt firefox gimp gimp-data-extras gimp-help gimp-hel

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 01:42:19 pm Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and > retire them in rawhide. > matahari-0:0.4.0-0.1.8003b6c.git.fc15.1.x86_64 The old code, we should update Fedora package to Sigar based version but I'm not sure the

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Richard Hughes
On 15 March 2011 13:21, Kalev Lember wrote: > The list above is missing some packages that depend on hal-libs. Below > should be a more complete list of the builds that need > one of the hal subpackages: Eeek, thanks. > gnome-device-manager-0.2-6.fc15 I *think* this is dead upstream. > gnome-p

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/15/2011 02:58 PM, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > Does anyone know what the future has in store for pcsc-lite I dont see > the point in writing a systemd service file for it if it's going to be > deprecated. pcsc-lite isn't going anywhere. Last week pcsc-lite upstream released 1.7.0, whi

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Kalev Lember
On 03/15/2011 02:42 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and > retire them in rawhide. > > HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has > moved into udev, and the u* daemons like upower, udisks and urfkill. > The origina

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Patrice Dumas
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:42:19PM +, Richard Hughes wrote: > I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and > retire them in rawhide. > > HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has > moved into udev, and the u* daemons like upower, udisks and urfk

Re: Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/15/2011 12:42 PM, Richard Hughes wrote: > The things that depend on HAL in F15 seem to be: > > beldi-0:0.9.25-3.fc15.x86_64 > blueman-0:1.21-7.fc15.x86_64 > exaile-0:0.3.2.1-1.fc15.noarch > gnome-device-manager-libs-0:0.2-6.fc15.i686 > libconcord-0:0.23-2.fc15.i686 > lxsession-0:0.4.5-2.fc15.

Orphaning and retiring HAL

2011-03-15 Thread Richard Hughes
I'm planning to orphan the hal and hal-info packages in F15 and and retire them in rawhide. HAL has been dead upstream for 3 years now, and all development has moved into udev, and the u* daemons like upower, udisks and urfkill. The original maintainer and most of the original team want HAL dead.