On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 22:13 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> (Is it actually impossible for the vesa driver to work after
> KMS has kicked in, btw, or is it just something that doesn't work at
> present?)
Right now, it may work or it may not. Typically the vesa bios assumes
it's the only thing th
On Sun, 2010-08-29 at 23:02 +0200, François Cami wrote:
> >> Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-detected, or
> >> configured, driver fails after 3 attempts instead of attempting to start
> >> 30 times and failing 30 times. A desktop notification should be
> >> triggered that
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 13:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
>> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
>> > display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display
>> >
Kevin Kofler, Sun, 29 Aug 2010 07:19:51 +0200:
>> I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a
>> tool for managing multiple screens/heads?
>
> It doesn't do systemwide/permanent settings. (But I think the GNOME tool
> also doesn't implement that at this time.)
Oh sorry, no
On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:19 AM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Matej Cepl wrote:
>> I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a tool
>> for managing multiple screens/heads?
>
> It doesn't do systemwide/permanent settings. (But I think the GNOME tool
> also doesn't implement that at
Matej Cepl wrote:
> I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a tool
> for managing multiple screens/heads?
It doesn't do systemwide/permanent settings. (But I think the GNOME tool
also doesn't implement that at this time.)
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Kevin Kofler, Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59:00 +0200:
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
I believe KDE should have something equivalent ... don't you have a tool
for managing multiple screens/heads?
> 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
Somebody suggested Xorg -configure but the main point
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 05:28:31PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > system-config-display depends on gtk, so it's all a matter of degree.
>
> No, I would never mention Gtk as a dep.
So, like I said, it's a matter of degree. This is all
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 4:11 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> >> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
>> >
>> > Demonstrably
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:59 -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> Adam Jackson wrote:
> >> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> >> > configuration too
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 03:59:06PM -0400, Arthur Pemberton wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> >> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
> >
> > Demonstrably true, but I don't see how it's relevant.
>
> You suggested `gno
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:49 PM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
>> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
>> > default" butt
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 19:59 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> > default" button.
>
> Uh…
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
Demonstrably tru
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 09:20:23PM +0200, Björn Persson wrote:
> Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> > Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
> >
> > That's an X bug. File a bug.
>
> I wonder how usable Bugzilla is in Lynx with 80×25 characters.
Works absolutely f
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place?
>
> That's an X bug. File a bug.
I wonder how usable Bugzilla is in Lynx with 80×25 characters.
Björn Persson
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Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-detected, or
> configured, driver fails after 3 attempts instead of attempting to start
> 30 times and failing 30 times. A desktop notification should be
> triggered that says "Hey! X failed and you're using a bas
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 20:27 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> >> 2. What about systemwide settings? (system-config-display did those.)
> >
> > What system wide settings?
>
> The settings in xorg.conf which apply to all users. Presumably, a "make
> default" button would be per use
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 13:32 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
> > 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
> > display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display --reconfig
> > was a way to fix such problems.)
>
> That's an X bu
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59 +0200
> Kevin Kofler wrote:
>
>> Adam Jackson wrote:
>> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
>> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
>> > default" butto
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> 3. What if you can't bring up X in the first place? (You can't run gnome-
> display-properties if you can't get into X. system-config-display --reconfig
> was a way to fix such problems.)
That's an X bug. File a bug.
Also, an RFE: X should back out and use VESA if the auto-d
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 10:59 -0400, Adam Jackson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> > On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > > I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> > > someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
> > >
> >
Kevin Fenzi wrote:
>> 2. What about systemwide settings? (system-config-display did those.)
>
> What system wide settings?
The settings in xorg.conf which apply to all users. Presumably, a "make
default" button would be per user. Or would it be for the systemwide
xorg.conf? Personally, I'd find
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 19:59 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Adam Jackson wrote:
> > Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> > configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> > default" button.
>
> Uh…
> 1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
Very true. I woul
Adam Jackson wrote:
> Static configuration should be something you can do from the dynamic
> configuration tool. gnome-display-properties should have a "set as
> default" button.
Uh…
1. Not everyone uses GNOME.
2. What about systemwide settings? (system-config-display did those.)
3. What if you c
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 01:43 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> > I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> > someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
> >
> > This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so,
On 08/26/2010 01:22 AM, Adam Jackson wrote:
> I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
> someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
>
> This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so, do
> speak up if you take it so we can sort that out.
Assuming n
I don't have time for it, and I think it's fundamentally misguided. If
someone else feels like owning it, go wild.
This will probably also require access to the upstream repo, so, do
speak up if you take it so we can sort that out.
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